Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-5269370-20140103013046/@comment-24077689-20140103222458

Xelrog T. Apocalypse wrote: Noothgrush wrote: I can actually agree when it's put like that. What if we kept the current suggested reading but in the "good place to start..." section we add newer works instead of the same old Dead Bart, Russian Sleep Experiment, etc.

Maybe instead of archiving, we could create a new suggested reading section and this old one, with all the basics can instead be a separate section listed as "The Originals" or something, like those of course are the basic foundations of Creepypasta. I do agree with PP, I don't like the idea of completely removing it at all.

What better place is there to start than the foundation?

I still think the page is fine as is and should only be added to, with the only additions being REALLY goddamn influential creepypastas. And, if the Suggested Readings pages gets too big--if there are too many dozens of articles on the "where to start" guide to creepypastas, it's going to be really overwhelming for new readers.

I don't think it should be a place reserved for "the best of the best." Just the most influential. Most agree that Sonic.exe is a bad creepypasta full of cliches, but it's extremely influential and I think definitely belongs there for this reason.

Again, I think we're discussing two different things here. If you want to have a page that lists what the community generally considers to be good, well-written creepypastas that maybe aren't read as much as they should be, hey, that's fine. Maybe extend Creepypasta of the Month a little, add honorable mentions or something. But that should be something SEPARATE from the "recommended reading"/"where to start," which should only include the all-time most influential, most accessible creepypastas for brand new, never-creepied-before users to just dip their feet in the water. That's the point, though. We're looking at the same old pastas, the lost episodes, the absolutely most banal examples of what creepypasta is. PotM clearly doesn't work, we've established that it needs work.

Come on, Dead Bart isn't even that good of a pasta. It's really not. A lot in the suggested reading is mediocre at best. I don't see the problem with replacing it with better works, not even more obscure of "honorable mention" worthy pasta. Literally just better stories. Who cares about accessibility? We're not talking about it as a feel-good "hey look at these crappy stories".

It's suggested reading. That doesn't necessarily mean "yeah these works were the originals and most influential". That's so asinine. Just because it's influential doesn't make it good or worthy of being suggested. Candle Cove is one of my favorites, it's so popular you don't have to suggest people read it. The suggested reading should be works that are the absolute best examples of what creepypasta is. Not Jeff the Killer just because it was one of the originals but Pen Pal because it's fucking good.

I mean, fuck we could even rotate that suggested reading every year or every 6 months or something. My point is that the works you're so fervently defending are so prevalent you don't need to suggest them anymore. They're so talked about it doesn't matter if they're listed on the page, people will still read them.

What you're talking about seems like it'd be more approriate if we had a locked thread as like a "classics" area or something.

We've established that Creepypasta has evolved beyond the typical Dead Bart and Ben Drowned type stories, it's about time we followed suit.