Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-24881871-20141004223618/@comment-5619531-20141005013238

There have been MANY discussions about this issue. And, honestly, I think it's just one big circle jerk.

When Justin and I made the chat rules on SPW (keep in mind that Xelrog added the description to this), we intended on users saying the word and being kicked from the chat, and if they said it again they would be banned for a day.

I have no clue why people started giving an automatic day ban on slurs here. It wasn't intended on it; it wasn't said to the moderators, but people in the past had done this. Now they're not doing it at all? They're trying to make the chat more strict than it is—that's how I see it.

And there are some slurs that are "automatically" banned by a certain user, and people follow it. They argue about it, but they automatically follow it. When Callie and I were talking about the cunt issue I wanted to ban ALL SEXIST SLURS because cunt is a sexist slur, so I saw that it would be fair enough to ban words like bitch because they're sexist (even though that they're not as extreme as cunt). We talked about it, and we agreed that all those words should be banned—this revision of the chat rules on SPW proves it.

A day or so later, everyone in the chat wanted to enact Justin's version of the rules. He agreed that cunt should banned, but I argued with him that if cunt is banned the other words are banned too. We came up with the idea that they would not be issued as a ban or a warning. After talking about this with Callie, I think that she said if any user use them in that derogatory context they will be issued that punishment, or something about agreeing them. I'm not too sure about it, but I don't think that cunt should be issued. I'm not going to call her a "hypocrite" on this issue, because I am not too sure. But I am for sure that cunt or tranny isn't a slur that should be banned—with or without Staff saying that it is a slur. Offensive? Yes. But are there other words that users use that have the same context that aren't banned? Yes.

I don't think that slurs should be allowed on the chat. We want all users to feel safe and be treated with respect, like you said yourself. If it allowed users using them in the right context but have some restrictions—like "I'm really gay", "you shouldn't use gay in that context", or "Rob Halford is gay man and loves men."—I would support this. But I'm thinking that you aren't really aiming at it because users like to make fun of Jewish people. The rule should be stricter if users are being that idiotic and make fun of a religion or race and not get punished for it. So I'm going to go and this.