Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-24881871-20141004223618/@comment-25393922-20141005005823

Likferd wrote:

Steam Phoenix wrote: >The Wikia ToU only prohibits hate speech

>implying slurs are not used in hate speech.

Slurs are banned because they are considered hate speech - in Wikia's mind, that's offensive language, including slurs.

Also, the last thing we need is for someone in chat to come in saying "WASSUP MAI N*GGA!" and using other ephitets devolving the chat to an even worse condition than what it was when it got shut down.

And your example with "Tranny". You can't say "transsexual" or "transgender" for what reason? You don't have to use a derogatory term.

You're basically saying "Let's use reason to NOT be civilized, reasonable people! We can write stories with them! Why can't we use them in real life?!" You can have a psychotic killer in a story too. You aren't allowed to become one.

And also, using, say, "gay" in proper terms, meaning happy, or someone referring to themselves as gay (meaning either happy or homosexual) is already allowed. It's no different than using lesbian. Using "gay" derogatorily isn't.

Now, if this were say, lightening the punishment to a kick instead of a full on ban, I'd be agreeable. But unfortunately, I cannot agree to - or allow - such an underhanded and blatant blowoff of the ToU and community guidelines. Unless I'm misunderstanding and you're saying people shouldn't be banned for using the words in an educational or objective context? In that case, why is this up? Because it's already allowed. The problem is we completely ignore hate speech if it doesn't have these key words, and oftentimes the person using slurs wasn't spewing hate in the first place. To put this into perspective, it's been well over a year since I've seen someone actively discriminate against someone's sexuality on CPW, and I've never seen someone use the word "nigger" because they really hate black people. On the other hand, as said before, religious minorities and fandoms are often the brunt of ridicule. It's time we accept that banning slurs causes more trouble than it's worth. Instead, we should focus on the people who are actually causing problems.

If someone is inciting hate speech, then ban them. It's inappropriate and against global rules. That doesn't mean we should lax on other rules moreso than we already have.