Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-4832646-20140502023923/@comment-24841732-20140502042802

Princess Callie wrote: Ecuinach wrote: Ecuinach wrote: Princess Callie wrote: Ecuinach wrote: Princess Callie wrote: Ecuinach wrote: wat. The only think Chao did was his fucking job. The entire time the only thing he "did" was tell Scorch that he needed to take it in PM. Also, this issue has already been closed. Scorch has been unbanned, and Chao retains his rights. End of story. Chao continues to be one of the best no-bullshit mods on chat. By attempting to demote him, you are only bringing up more issues that have already been resolved. Really now? As stated, Nick I agreed this should be created. And that explains the people who told Nick and I "He was constantly needing the last word, refused to drop the subject, and continued an argument after being asked to cease". That is not doing his job, by any stretch of the imagination.

Not to mention the history of offenses that should've gotten him demoted in the first place.

Mind naming these, please? As for the issue at hand, I was there the whole time. And while Scorch's testinomy is fairly accurate, he failed to mention that I warned him FIVE TIMES and kicked him TWICE before I had banned him. And while Chao agreeably should of stopped the argument himself, earlier, not once did he do something warrenting a demotion. His entire HISTORY earns him this demotion. Anyone who has done who has done what ChaoZ has done wouldn't be a mod. This particular offense was the final straw. The fact that ChaoZ did not stop the argument himself also indicates a failure in moderator responsibilities.

@Devin My scuffle with him was over the exact same kind of abuses that have put this thread in place. One time? Dipshit move. Two times? Still somewhat excusable. Three or more times? Power abuse. I've heard of the drama, I have watched the drama, and have been forced into the drama. Back then, I had gotten onto him repetitively for bullying new users and temporary mods. He then proceeded to intentionally incite drama in order to get a reaction from me. Also, Zy is an off-topic thing.

Also, I must agree that it would be hard to calm down with a moderator deciding to antagonize you.

It's not simply for causing names; this is a compilation with his latest offense being the final straw. If this can't be, where do we draw the line? When he actually admits it? No. Something needs done before then. In that case, name all of those in the OP. Right now it sounds like you are trying to demote his ass because of one incident. Keep in mind I have not been here for all of Chao's time as a mod, so I can only vote based on what I, personally, have seen. I also fail to see the power abuse involved.

Scratch that, list them in detail. If you are demoting a user for more than one issue, those issues need to be made clear. List issues already made clear in the past? Hmmm... Let's see.


 * Picking on new users and temp mods (L and Kei when they were temps in March)


 * Disrespecting administrators. (tellling me he would not take orders from a dumbass after I asked him to stop this, intentionally continuing on the "Critic drama" after Maria warned him to stop until she finally threatened to ban him (she was still admin at the time))


 * Intentionally starting drama in the main chat. (This is uncountable. Notable examples? Making fun of the fact that I asked chat to refrain from dead baby jokes due to a trauma I experienced in order to incite a reaction, not to mention this.)

Now, I'm not going to go through a list of every offense. This one incident is quite enough to earn a moderator demotion. A similiar incident has earned moderators demotions in the past, why should Chao be any different? It may be a compilation of everything, but this one thing is more than enough.

Thanks. This was all I was asking. In light of this, I'm swaying a bit towards nuetral, but still oppose from now. We will see what other users have to say.