Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-24376429-20140310191324/@comment-24376429-20140311131926

Princess Callie wrote: UrotsukI wrote: WhyAmIReadingThis wrote: Ill have to point that indeed, a public thread is definitely the way to deal with a demotion. You know, judging how Staff needs to see threads to demote people and all, Id say it could work as the correct protocol for every case.

Now, leaving that aside...I cant avoid to find the screenshots provided somewhat dubious, in the sense of the attittude coming from both sides. I definitely can sense some bias, what with the taunting about flirting on Facebook and what not. To me that seems like baiting to try to get a negative reaction. However, Pramirez really does need to get some control on Gertrud, on the sense of her activities on chat. The screenshots provided of the main chat really shows a behavior that requires at the very least intervention from a Moderator, and while Prammi kicked her twice, it seems that she should have been banned instead, as it was a large argument and all, and here everything indicates it was told to stop at least once, and it didnt

For that, Im banning Gertrud, under the grounds of flamebaiting

Now, Look, Let me just clear some shit up okay? The reason I was taunting and "antagonizing" Pram at that point was because until that night i had tried to fool myself into thinking gertrud was my friend, Desptie every bit of shit she gave me repeatedly. frequently telling me to shut up and such things as shown in the screenshot. she NEVER got called out or punished for any of this before the instance i screenshotted, and when i took the screenshots i had reached a point wherein i didn't care what happened. because i was being insulted and mocked by someone I called a friend until that night. which i did, i tried to be friends with her. I tried as much as i could but all she ever did was push me out and insult me in main. so i got tired of it. And i didn't expect pram to do anything about it. i KNEW he wasn't going to do anything about it, Because he was with gertrud. so if he wasn't gonna bring justice anyways, he didn't deserve my respect. Especially not in PM. As far as respect, disrespecting someone and taunting them, and then going after them for power abuse is ridiculous. What's between you and Gertrud has nothing to do with what is between Pram and you (with the exception of the two's relationship), and therefore, you should not have taunted at him. If you put it on a scale, your attitude was much worse than Pram's. It's still no excuse for the way Pram chose to respond or what he threatened to do, and it in no way justifies letting someone who is clearly shown to harass other users at will do it as they please.