Board Thread:Administration/@comment-4832646-20140318213355/@comment-4832646-20140319152737

Scorch933 wrote: Grammatik wrote: Scorch, we were not spamming "Nigger" or "Faggot", we actually did talk about the site and the current mods. Those words, however, are allowed there. But nobody spammed either of them, at least not when I was on the IRC.

@Rarity and Grammatik: Must've been before I joined. When I got the invite from meta, he was spamming those same words.

@Callie: I really don't give a damn about the chat. I'm protesting the fact that you guys are trying to force users to edit. I'm telling you that very few contributors feel comfortable editing someone else's work, and I'm also telling you that it seems more like you and the rest of them are just feeling underappreciated, like no one does any work, and thus you want a message sent.

Unfortunately, for all the talk I hear of users like Devin being able to "focus on their work" because chat's gone, and users telling me it will "reduce drama"...-Which is Ironic because most of you indulge in that same drama daily- That users who actually want to edit COULD be editing and instead choose to waste their time on chat. So either the case is that Chat is indeed a distraction for users to the main purpose of the site and thus should not exist, or you are merely using it as an excuse for your (hypothetical, directed at nobody specific) personal laziness.

As for chat moderators needing to meet edit requirements, I think that is horribly unfair. They are not VCROC or Editors, they aren't administrators, they are Chat Moderators, there for the sole purpose of moderating the chat and keeping the chaos controlled. Why the moderators have say on Wiki structural matters, OR why they should be forced to meet an edit count to become moderators or keep their positions, I don't understand.

For people who have to be on the chat a certain amount of time each day, who are busy out of their f'ing skulls, you are forcing them to edit.

So either you are overworking them, or telling them to distract themselves from MODERATION and edit.

And that's a good point. If the moderators are editing when they're supposed to be moderating, who controls and moderates chat? Because of those policies, it takes an incredible amount of time for any moderator to respond on the chat.

Thus the duties of the moderator become skewed. And, quite frankly, I HATE having to hear moderators BITCH about being underappreciated and how all the users hate them because they're not doing their jobs when they are CLEARLY overworked. I think you missed the point. The edit is a '''prerequisite. You get it before you are eligible to recieve the right.''' And on top of that, should you not earn your keep? Take rollback, for example. It's a fucking button. That's it. Effectively useless right. Yet, you have to have 200 article edits to get it. Why should Chat moderators be any different? The right is effectively useless on site. Useful in chat, but not on site.

If you're going to be here, contribute. Don't just sit by and read - you don't need an account to read. You have that account to do more with your time than that and chat. Especially if you're going to complain about the quality of the site, or how you want to be an admin, or some other thing.