Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-5619531-20140501174336/@comment-4832646-20140501221341

LOLSKELETONS wrote: I don't get why this is necessary.

"Oh, so the support-oppose ratio doesn't guarantee that my application will be passed?  ''"What's that? My app might be rejected even if I meet all the 'qualifications'?"''

Things like this should be a given to anyone applying for a user right.

RE: Days of Application

I'm going to have to disagree here. I don't see a problem with giving an app a reasonable amount of time if it stands a chance, but I think it should really depend on the app. If an applicant is obviously unfit for the position, I don't see a problem with cutting all the bullshit and simply rejecting them, especially if the majority of the "votes" are just their friends supporting them. Chat mod apps are especially bad about this.

RE: Chatmods

It actually really frustrates me how much admins grant/revoke chatmod rights nowadays. You'd think that admins would know better than to abuse that ability, but based on all the shitty moderators and mod drama that's spilled over into the main site recently, it's clear that the admins aren't exercising enough restraint in this area.

I honestly think that bureaucrats should get the final word on chat mod applications or demotion requests, and admins should only use their ability to grant or revoke chatmod rights when transferring rights from one account to another and/or in emergency situations. (I also think that it's a really bad idea to keep chat mod applications open indefinitely, and we should only have open periods when we absolutely need new/better mods.) If they're completely unfit, no problem. If they're average or above, even extraordinarily great, it needs to have time to be properly shown who's actually supported and who's not.

Though I have to say, Demotion requests are not something that should be finalized only by the bureaucrat; it's not an application, but the opposite. Demote threads are a community vote.