Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-24841732-20140814122217/@comment-4832646-20140814213153

Per Dinkleberg, as that basically happened on Spinpasta. Not to mention, the userbase, even with the strict rules, still caused a lot of drama, and I simply don't see chat coming back without interference of the Site's main function.

Sure, chat can be a benefit to the site. No one is saying it can't. But, from past experience, it is more beneficial to keep it shutdown. Nothing on this wiki should require the need for instant communication. Policy doesn't need instant communication. Collaboration doesn't need instant communication. If it is needed, there are several other chats that can be used. But generally, that can easily be covered via, yes, the forum. Anyone can see the forum. There's no excuse not to know about it.

The drama isn't an easy fix. Even with the rules being as strict as possible, that will still cause drama. Putting up strict rules would immediately result in "PROPOSAL: REMOVE THIS CHAT RULE BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT!" Sure, we could remove these threads, close them, etc. But that doesn't make it not happen, and eventually we would be dealing with more chat stuff than we are with the site - which is more important. Remember the whole "cunt" ordeal?

Also, people who use the chat have this bad tendency to be dead weight. They make little contribution to anything on the site. When they do edit something, it's usually a forum post just for something to do with chat. It gives very little benefit to the site.

Final reason: NO ONE IS EVER HAPPY WITH ANYTHING EVER IN REGARDS TO CHAT EVER!!!!