Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-24881871-20141004223618/@comment-3999760-20141005022239

ImGonnaBeThatGuy wrote:

I think it's great that a bunch of 14-year-olds wants to say faggot and nigger and tranny. Like, it's really cool that you guys are so beyond racism and persecution that you can use them and it's not offensive.

You could also just not use them.

The argument that they're not being used offensively it stupid, because they're still being used immaturely. You people just want to use nigger, why? Because it's the internet and that's something you do on the internet? What actual reason is there to say nigger? Or call someone a faggot? Or any other slur? Irony? Edginess? Because it's funny?

Why do we allow stories with distasteful content, but don't allow users to use slurs in chat? For the same reason characters in movies are allowed to shoot each other, but you can't do it in real life without getting in trouble. In a story, the content has a point, it's meant to contribute to the plot, it's meant to define character, to be thrilling or scary, add suspense or make us uncomfortable. In chat, it's without good purpose. We delete stories that have no purpose.

The idea that using them offensively would still be bannable is stupid. "You're such a faggot" is how the word gets used 95% of the time. Sometimes someone might call themselves a faggot, but what else is there? "This sandwich I'm eating is such a faggot"? "You stupid nigger" is offensive? Why? Because of the "stupid"?

Again, what the fuck is the point? Why do you need to use the words? It's easier, shorter is ridiculous. Likferd, you give the example of using "a person who changes gender" to replace "tranny." Or, you know, you could use transsexual.

Well, why do we allow swearing, but not slurs. Because of history. "Fuck" might offend someone, but "fuck" was never specifically used in the persecution of any group of people.

Well, words are only offensive if you're offended by them. I get it. I do. I've written offensive things, I've written offensive things that maybe should have offended me personally given what I've experience in life. The thing is, not everyone has the same attitude. Remember how some people used to feel that chat was an unwelcoming and hostile place? The resurrected chat can't continue on that road. If it does, it's getting shut down. Unbanning slurs aren't going to help people feel more welcome.

The BIGGEST stupid idea in this whole thread is that because other kind of racism slip through the cracks that means all of it should be allowed. We get this argument on the main site all the time: "Why did you delete my story? There are other, worse stories on here."

Guess what? Just because one thing isn't caught doesn't mean a similar thing should be ignored. Our moderators should be stopping people from making parody accounts mocking races. I have.

TL,DR: There's no good reason for anyone in chat to use slurs other than that they want to. Wanting to is not good enough. You have a good point there, but I propose that we be more lenient on slurs than outright banning anyone that says "faggot" on the chat. I seen time to time many users are basically edged on to saying slurs to start shit on the chat. Saying slurs on the chat always been some type of fuel to drama because we allow it to be. Users here need thicker skin, not freak out when someone says a slur on the chat, especially if they're going to host stories on the wiki. Though the reason why I support this is not to be "le edgy interweb usr", but to lower disputes and unnecessary, questionable bans.