User blog comment:EtherBot/Let's Talk Deletion!!!/@comment-24101790-20170210025912

Sorry, but a lot of this is kind of subjective. Look at this asshole writing reviews that rival the length of the stories themselves in comparison to something that was written over two years ago. It feels a bit like cherry-picking when responses to story deletions tend to equal or be longer than the story itself. Feel free to check the deletion appeals for this (also note the amount of times authors revised their stories before making appeals for reference).

"I write poetry pastas a lot because I think there's too low an ammount (sic) of well written poetry pastas on the site but you wouldn't know I write poetry pastas because half are deleted. " Given that in the past year we had an admin proposing the blacklisting of all poetry due to its tendency to be rushed/flawed/riddled with errors, which leaves me wondering why authors who have had their poetry deleted are the least likely to try and revise it or get help for the errors present in their posts. It seems a bit counter-intuitive, when they tend to post frequent complaints about our standards without really trying to improve their own stories...

"This site really does have a system that I think discourages aspiring writers from getting better." I'm sorry, but what do you think the writer's workshop is for? Remember that this is the place where sometimes the reviews written are longer than the stories themselves and are sometimes given on stories that are notably below standards. If what you're implying is true, wouldn't we just shut down those threads outright and ignore them as opposed to, say writing reviews that are longer than the stories themselves. (I can give more than this, but I am feeling a bit lazy tonight.)

We have a system that encourages authors to take their story to the writer's workshop and revise before posting their story or making an appeal. If authors are looking for a place with lax standards, they can easily find them elsewhere. On this wiki, we are trying to create an environment where authors can improve their writing. We're not going to accept a story because it's 'babby's first pasta' or that they didn't 'spend any time reviewing/revising their story'. If you want a site that accepts low quality stories, there are a number of other sites to check out like Wattpad and some sections of Reddit.

Since this post likely isn't about this, I'll mention the points I listed above. Our standards for poetry have been lax for too long and as a result have ended up with quite a lot of flawed/uninteresting/rushed/problematic poems that we've had to delete (the last purge I participated in deleted 400+ poems of our site which were very flawed in terms of punctuation, capitalization, wording, flawed story-telling, interesting/cookie-cutter plots, etc.

Finally your message of "So what do we do? I dunno! That's not my job I'm just a writer." seems kind of dickish if we're being honest. We have a writer's workshop for fuck's sake where you can help struggling authors. It's a forum that literally has multiple people posting and responding to it on a daily basis that are looking for assistance. If you're next argument is about time constraints, besides wondering why you spent this time writing this, I'll say that I have posted a metric shit-ton of stories (70+ if we're counting) to this website and I frequently give reviews. Complaining about our quality standards without actually trying to help out authors on the site (say for the past couple of months) really doesn't make it seem like you have struggling authors in mind.

I'll leave you with this: "I'm just saying that the system needs to be fixed and brainstorming for a big idea needs to be more encouraged than it actually is." Our system is fine, we just need other authors to actually give a shit and help out people in the WW and the revision process. You could say our DA is the final test fr authors who have had stories deleted and the WW is like study halls to help them prepare. If that's the case, what have you (specifically you as this message is multiple paragraphs long) done for the workshop lately? It isn't a one-way service you know...