Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-5619531-20140411125117/@comment-24304936-20140411164534

Lil' Miss Rarity wrote: Mystreve wrote: Fatal Disease wrote: Hello. I am here to propose the demotion of administrator Kill1mes from his administrative rights. He was the first ever VCROC to ever be promoted on this site, yes. But in later times he doesn't edit that much as he used to. He usually comes on the chat and moderate it, rather than doing site work that an administrator is supposed to do. In the logs you do not see his name at all. If you check in the list of sysops on this wiki you can see that he hasn't edited since April 1st, a rollback of SG's edit by Ben on April 1st (when he added AF on his talk page). Before that, his last edit was on March 28th. Before that, he edited. But he did not edit on qualitative articles, though. Numerous of times I have seen him edit on an article, and another administrator has came in and deleted the article because it wasn't qualitative. As the users who may oppose to this, here are probably the great examples as to why you may oppose:
 * He may have a life! All administrators have a life!
 * That is true, though. Ever since the chat shut-down last week, he has been on Facebook numerous of times (as I am a friend of his on there), and he has visited the Trollpasta chat a couple of times, rather than doing his part from here.


 * He is my friend on this wiki!
 * He is also my friend, too. So was 41488p, and I was the one that voted support on his demotion thread.


 * I thought you don't care about the site? You said so yourself!
 * I am neutral to supporting this site, nowadays. But, if I have gotten the demotion thread because of chat reasons, then any administrator who spends their time in the chat rather than doing their part on the site should too.


 * He is a good chat moderator in the chat!
 * And he is. But he is not a good administrator though. Once the chat is back up on the 16th, I say that we reduce his rights to chat moderator. As he does nothing with his administrator rights on this site, rather than his chat moderator rights on this wiki.

We do need administrators on this wiki, yes. But we do not need administrators who spend their time all day on the chat. Any administrator should help out with their part on site work, rather than worrying about chat stuff. For, both, his applications for administrator, he has put the reason to promote users to temp moderator for the reason. As our rules have updated, and the requirements have changed, we will have more users apply for chat moderator later on and they will be subjected to the trial days as soon as chat is re-established.


 * Really? Facebook and Trollpasta monitoring? Are you some kind of stalker? Granted, his edit count isn't all that high as of late, but maybe he's the type of admin who likes to step away for a while, rather than create drama by asking for a demotion by whining and bitching (and then begging for the rights back at his leisure, expecting them to be given on a silver platter). If he would've been away for more than a month, then ok, maybe he should've let the admins/crats know. Real life always trumps all. But really Fatal? Hounding him on Facebook?
 * If you're so neutral, why this long fucking thread? And admins who piss away all their time in chat. That sounds familiar...

Anyway,. Find something else to do besides starting shit, Fatal I absolutely love how you boil this down to "starting shit". Obviously you have no idea what that means since the only way drama would come from this is if you and others are to cause it which appears to be what you are trying to at this very moment.

Kill hasn't just been inactive for a week, he rarely edits which is understandable because the iPad experience isn't exactly friendly. Even so if he can't keep up with the amount of editing expected of him then there is no reason he should have administrator rights. I'd be fine with him having just chat mod because that's the task he chooses to focus on. But I do think it's time his sysop rights are handed in. Okay, then. Why not throw Zalgo's name into the hat as well then? Or Moose? Their edits don't seem to meet the stringent administrator requirements that Fatal outlined either, judging by their recent stats. Why just Kill1mes? Fatal admitted he is friends with him on Facebook. Did the two have some kind of falling out we don't know about? Something seems off-kilter.

This isn't starting shit. It is just based off of what Fatal said in his OP.

"Kill hasn't just been inactive for a week, he rarely edits which is understandable because the iPad experience isn't exactly friendly. Even so if he can't keep up with the amount of editing expected of him then there is no reason he should have administrator rights."

So then, what's expected of him (or others that don't meet the standards in your head), Maria. Enlighten us all.