Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-4832646-20140719071615/@comment-10950063-20140722125011

WiIlow wrote: Excuse me, Guy? Did I say it was the admins fault chat is bad?

No, I did not. I say it is everyone's fault.

And so what if people thing you are an asshole for closing a thread that is causing drama? In fairness, you didn't. I interpreted the "you" in "If you keep saying chat is a bad thing for this site" as admins. Mostly because, at least from what I've seen and heard, chat users generally do blame admins for everything.

I'm sorry for putting those words in your mouth.

As for the last point, it's not about being thought of as an asshole. That stuff doesn't help the situation (on the chat side, I've been called so much worse by users on this site, I don't care), but again the problem is things don't get solved. Drama, usually, is an overblown reaction to a legitimate issue. If it doesn't get taken care of, it keeps being a problem and it compounds. There's a problem, people are angry that nobody's doing anything about it, the problem get worse, people become angrier.

The Wolfenmaus debacle is a perfect example. Legitimate issue, not going to fault any one on that, presented by the chat in completely the wrong way, drama threads got closed, a demotion thread got closed. The problem was still there. He did get his modship revoked, but it also happened about an hour before the chat shut down.