Board Thread:Administration/@comment-4832646-20140318213355/@comment-4832646-20140319164537

ShawnHowellsCP wrote: Princess Callie wrote: WiIlow wrote: Princess Callie wrote: Scorch933 wrote: Princess Callie wrote: Scorch933 wrote: WhyAmIReadingThis wrote: Reminder: the purpose isn't to force people to edit. If you don't want to edit, so be it! So what is the purpose, Nick? To bitch? To encourage editing? True, you will get a few chat regulars to edit, but Let me ask a question. How many users, of 20,000, regularly visit the chat? No more than a hundred or so. I could be wrong. Estimate off the top of my head. Who are you encouraging to edit by disabling the chat? The couple dozen who don't edit and probably won't during this time- OR, the people who have already volunteered to edit WHO COULD BE EDITING BUT DON'T.

@Callie: Then get rid of chat. There's no point in having Chat Moderators that don't even do their jobs if they are going to be forced to edit. With Rollback and VCROC, those are for people who have edited and contributed to the site. It's really a title though. A chat moderator serves the purpose of moderating chat a certain number of hours each day. If that duty is skewed by the obligation to edit, They should not be "chat moderators". In fact, there shouldn't be a chat if the focus of a Chat Moderator's job is to edit. Because then he's not a chat moderator. If the right is effectively useless on the site, why do they need to have an edit count if their job is to moderate? YOU SEEM TO BE MISSING THE POINT. Again, you're missing the point. Chat is part of the site. And if chat is so little a distraction as you claim, want-to-be mods should have no problem fufilling the prerequisites. THEY ARE CHAT MODERATORS. MAYBE YOU AREN'T UNDERSTANDING, Dear.

'''When a chat moderator has to MODERATE for a certain amount of time, they should be focused on the chat and moderating it, instead of editing where they are paying no attention to the chaos going on in chat. WHEN THEY FINALLY DO INTERVENE, have no idea what's going, take immediate action, and usually ban the wrong user on 'accident'.'''

Excuse my caps, but you're really not getting it. Stop treating me like an idiot. The purpose of a chat moderator is to moderate chat, not edit. That is the job of the user. So, are chat mods not users? It's called earning your keep. Saying it's a bad idea just because you don't want chat shut down is a tad bit ridiculous. Saying that because chat mod involves chat, they should do nothing for the  site that hosts the chat  is a tad bit ridiculous.

On top of that, chat has become a burden. This will aleviate some of the burden for a temporary time to get the site cleaned up, and we are asking users to help. Instead of opposing basically because you think we trying to be some Neo-Nazi slave site, why not help out? I rarely see your name in the Recent Changes section.

Excuse me? "Earn our keep"?

We built up a reputation, and became chat mods, and keep shit out of the chat. That RIGHT THERE, is our god damned keep, Callie!

You are acting like we just came along and got the damn position! We worked just as hard as anyone else to get it! Don't you even DARE say we have done nothing to earn our place, because we sure as hell have! Did I say you've done nothing? No. Many of the original mods who applied at least had to do something other than be active in chat to get it.

But yeah, there are users who one day I'll walk in and they're mod. They've been there less than a month and have 10-50 edits. Yet that's cool? I apologize if some reason I'm asking too much for users who want to be chat mods to actually have a reputation on site too. In particular when they start expressing the want to become admins.

How hard is 150 edits? How hard is it to edit 125 articles? If you are sitting there saying every user who has been here a month and has just suddenly gained a star in the past week is earning it, I have to disagree. Name one user who is like that. One. L was. Despite being here for a month he was given a temp run. While he may have been demoted, he was a mod while other mods were in chat. With that being said, temporary mods, according to many, have to meet set prerequisites. He didn't.

While I won't judge his modship, I don't think that it was well earned.