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Ok. There's also the fact the last attempted appeal was in January. Just trying to provide an alternative viewpoint. You are saying spinoffs haven't been approved because of how awful they are in general (I don't disagree). However, maybe the fact that spinoffs literally never get approved is what is discouraging writers who could write a decent spinoff from even attempting it.

Case in point and at the risk of reopening old wounds, My JtK spinoff appeal last year was blanket denied by an admin before they had even read it. Then when I called bullshit I was told it was denied because the admins were in the process of eliminating the spinoff appeal. Then when another admin pointed out that since the appeal had not yet been eliminated it should be considered on its own merits, it was denied in part because of my salty attitude, despite the fact that several of the admins who voted no commented they thought the story was decent (I'm sure you remember all this Cleric, it was angsty and drama filled, just like JtK fanboys and girls want).

I will not be attempting another spinoff on this site. I doubt that Humboldt or Banning (who has repeatedly said how hard it was to get the JtK contest approved) will be trying to write one (Banning has been relegated to posting the sequel to his winning JtK story on the literal ghost down that is the spin pasta wiki).

I guess my point is using the existence of the spinoff appeal page as justification for blanket denying spinoffs maybe isn't the best way to generate content for the site. If everyone is ok with current site traffic and participation, then sure that's fine. If there are other ideas out there to increase the community size, I think that's great too and would frankly even be better than lifting bans. But as a semi-regular contributor here I'm just trying to challenge the thinking that "rules are rules, they're there for a reason and the site will come crashing down if we even think about tweaking them". Just my two cents.