Talk:Jvk1166z.esp/@comment-26117398-20150217015641/@comment-26054278-20150410151200

Although yes, those stories did start the cliches, they were not good cliches. There are cliches that are actually overused because they are good and cliches that just got worse the more they were used.

Squidward's Suicide has many other problems besides the bad cliches though.