Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-36052213-20180802015552/@comment-36292647-20180803153926

MrDupin wrote: Llanunall wrote:

Currently in this thread we have talked about these walls of hate and it seems that the consensus is that they don't belong on an admins page. So like, if he could not have one that would probably be great.

If he wants to remove the salt pages thing, he can go ahead and do that. I don't see it as a huge issue, but he does have to be more careful about what he puts on there. If it's full on salt (and thus may deter others from acting the same way), sure, but he should not be trigger-happy about what goes there.

Furthermore, actually hash things out like an adult with Lokintas and stop using their birth-identity as ammunition against them. If a user really get to you on a discord do the adult thing and remove them, not throw around insults and drag it onto the wiki. I don't even expect him to sit there and flat out appologize, just admit it was a wrong thing to do in the edit summary or something.

About the Lokintas situation, since we have no full context of the conversation, we can't ask him to do anything. He has reassured me though that he will not make such insults again. Also, from what I understand, Lokintas was actually kicked from Discord (I think temporarily, not sure how Discord works), hoping the situation would end there. I will not ask him to do anything for this either, unless more evidence surfaces about the whole context of the insults.

If both of them are up for it, they can hash it out. But this does not fall only on Helel's shoulders.

Lastly, go forward and be polite and stewardly when talking to users. Recognize that you attitude isn't conductive and change it, like, right away.

People do things they shouldn't, you have to acknowledge that and do better, especially if you are an admin.

As I said, I am confident he will be more careful when interacting with others. He reassured me and I believe him.

All in all, these are not actions that should be imposed on Helel. This is not a playground and we do not enforce petty punishment. If he wants to make a comment, he is free to do so. He is also free to not do so. If you want to go ahead and write off constructive things he could do as mere petty playground punishment then you are free to do so. In the meantime, I still hold the position that, unless he actually starts to make changes, that he still should not hold the rank of Administrator.