Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-4833240-20140301051701/@comment-24077689-20140305161906

Xelrog T. Apocalypse wrote: Feeling angry and violent doesn't give you the right to punch whoever's nearby in the face, nor does it give you the right to lash out at others on the internet. Just like a KKK member's "feelings" don't give him the right to participate in many of the acts they participate in.

There is a limit to what you can get away with in the name of self-expression. Haha, yeah lets use a grandiose unrealistic example for the sake of comparison. Obviously racist actions and things that do real harm to others is a line that you do not cross for any sake, let alone "self expression". And that obviously is absolutely incomparable to critiquing's someone's story a goddamn internet forum. Get real, bro.

I'm too fucking sick and tired to deal with this crap. This isn't even a fucking debate anymore. It's mindless rhetoric and ridiculous hyperbole. Nobody should be expected to tip toe around the feelings of other users. We're not attacking anyone at all, we're picking apart their work meticulously and giving them critique's. If they're not mature or smart enough to realize/take that then that's their problem and maybe they'll grow up in the future.

Granted, outright attacks stating things like "welp, this fucking sucks" are hardly conducive to the type of peer reviewed atmosphere that we're aiming at, but I fail to see how outside of that a slight edge to the critique is really such a fucking bad thing. OH FUCKING NO THEYRE NOT BEING NEUTRAL SOMEBODY MIGHT TAKE THAT POORLY POTENTIALLY. Make no mistake, I do what I do well and I will not compromise on my methods which have shown genuine improvement from several users here. I'm sorry that my abrasiveness bothers you, it's not going to change.

We're not being bullies, we're not telling people to go kill themselves. We're not making an overtly hostile atmosphere; we're reviewing other's work. God forbid we do so with any slightly human qualities such as sarcasm or wit. Lets check that at the fucking door and be neutral automatons. The quality standards are VERY CLEARLY everywhere on the site, on multiple places on the front page. Users are expected to understand what they mean. If it's that bad it immediately gets deleted without a second thought, if it's marginally ok enough to slip through the cracks then that's where we come in. As reviewers we act as a second line of quality control in many ways. A far more human aspect that can not only tell people what's and why's of the story but also how to drastically improve. If someone can't take a bit of abrasiveness in a critique on an internet forum then I'd sure hate to see them experience real disdain and hatefulness at the hands of an overbearing employer.