Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-4832646-20140814234334/@comment-24304936-20140815143207

Sloshedtrain wrote: Mystreve wrote: Honestly, this site is running along smoothly at the moment. The people doing the contributing are doing just that. The people who might be a bit more stagnant? Life happens.

We seem to have a revolving door of people contributing how they can, and I am fine with that. As long as shit gets done. Which it is. Just because Sloshed hasn't made a zillion proposals or promoted/demoted anyone (we haven't really had many new apps anyway), doesn't make him a bad bureaucrat.

He does need to step up his game with contributing though. He keeps saying he still wants to retain his bureaucratic rights, but he hasn't really said why, or shown any proof. He could do what he is presently doing easily as an administrator. Or even less.

So yeah, some light and dark on this one. Hence, my neutral vote. Though the thing about bureaucratic rights that it only adds the ability to make/take users rollback, and administrator rights, and make other bureaucrats (can't take the rights though). So technically, I will have to approve my own demotion, unless you get the staff, which I haven't seen much other users comments regarding my rights.

I still edit on the wiki primarily because of my bureaucratic rights. I have been on here mostly everyday, but only made few edits now and then. As you said earlier, the need of me actually using the rights have been lately stagnated. You could make the argument that Skelly and ImGonnaBeThatGuy don't really need their rights to do what they do.

The need for me to do the heavy lifting on the wiki has been levitated. This isn't 2012, where I flooded the Recent Activity. The rights at least gives me motivation that 30,000+ edits and countless hours didn't go down the drain, and that community still needs me to balance things out and handle problems. Exactly. Crat rights are just a slightly beefed-up version of an admin's. That being what you said, and you guys also making/passing rules that we admins can't. Besides that, the lines blur significantly. My vote is more of a neutral leaning on oppose for your demotion.

I really don't take away any of the contributions you have made in the past. I've seen the things you've done and they are pretty impressive.