Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-25230922-20150630054954/@comment-25230922-20150630063528

EmpyrealInvective wrote:

While we're pretty set apart from the other wikis, there is still quite a bit of bleed-over between the sites. (We send troll pastas and spinoff pastas to their respective sites and they have been known to report users who are planning raids and I encourage users who are going to try a SA to post to SPW first for feedback.) I know SPW has had some issues with regulation (when I last checked), but I feel like if we sever those ties, it really isn't going to improve the situation over there any. We could enforce stricter rules over there and try to weed out stories and increase the overall quality of the site. If need be, I can pop over there every once in a while to do QC, but I think that might not be well-received.

As for troll pasta, to be honest, I haven't visited that site for a few months and I can't vouch for how bad it has gotten, but the notifications I received that I just read, it seems like the situation is dire. Unfortunately I really can't think of any ways to solve the issues (as enforcing stricter rules on on site that features troll pastas seems counter-intuitive.).

In the end, I don't really see much point in cutting connections to the other wikis. It wouldn't really help the other sister sites and wouldn't really benefit this wiki any. (Other than maybe preventing blowback if Staff has to shut down the TPW for raiding other wikis.) It seems like it would just split up the CP network and remove some of the structure we had. Actually, it would help if someone did QC over there, but it wouldn't help that much. It would literally just put more things on your plate to do, and that's largely because the site only gets used to chat anymore. Not many users actually get a lot of feedback there on their stories, partially because there aren't many active admins. Only one really helps on site - but the crat who is active spends most of her time on chat and doing chat-related things. To sever ties wouldn't improve the situation, but it would take quite the bit more effort to actually successfully reconstruct the site than is worth it. It would actually probably kill the site more to shut down its chat, and it's still not that active. For it to actually be salvageable, it would take a community that is actually willing to participate, and that's something that SPW doesn't really have.

Trollpasta is literally out of control. To be quite honest, it would be in the best interest of this site to sever it from the network. It's a guilty-by-affiliation bias.

Users from this site could still post on the other wikis. We are simply getting rid of the affiliation we have with them officially. Honestly, we should be looking into actually crafting a network of sites that share similar goals without nigh-irreparable situations. We should be building a network community. It would probably offer better structure and benefit to sever ties with Spinpasta (which has lost a lot of purpose, tbh) and Trollpasta (for which the situation is very grim as far as behavior is concerned) and create ties with new wikis and active wikis with better rule enforcement and maturity. In fact, I could probably contact a few people from other story wikis and ask if they would be willing to affiliate with us, and I'm more than willing to affiliate this site with CPW as well.

At the very least, we should concentrate on building a collaborative network with more than just these three wikis and stabilizing it if we're not going sever ties and start from scratch. I personally believe the latter is the better option.