Board Thread:Writer's Workshop/@comment-33937557-20180603171940/@comment-9041013-20180607200449

Jdeschene wrote: What do I want? that same reputation to make an appearence in a story. I don't want a kid dying from a synthetic morphine overdose when I read about Krokodil, I want a kid losing a limb, gruesomely, before overdosing on that drug. Did you ever watch Requiem for a Dream? It is a shocking film not because of weird filming style but because it details what drug addiction does to your life from various perspectives.

We all know overdosing might kill you, that isn't the scary part to a casual audience, the scary part is how... and in Krokodil's case, the overdose possibility is the least scary affect on one's body.

I am not really worried, I just keep getting quoted :O I think we're viewing the story fundamentally differently. For me, what was scary about it was the ease with which the drug was acquired. There was a man at a carnival knowingly selling a toxic substance to children. That's what freaks me out about this story. Everything else is kind of secondary. I do too, until there's a mention of a substance involved which has gained infamy for something else other than overdose lethalilty. It's somewhat of a cheap shock factor... "oooo the scary krokodil oooo" would you be less bothered if the candies were simply filled with heroine or cocaine or even some potent pesticide?

DrBobSmith wrote: BloodySpghetti wrote:

Well, the whole point of mentioning this drug, is because of the reputation it had gotten, even if not intentionally, it's this idea of a terrible, crippling narcotic that must've gotten to the writer's head. Which is kind of silly, considering how he hasn't used the reputation at all in his story.

Might as well give the kid a caffeine overdose which will, given the right amount of caffeine in his system - cause the same result.

Also, there's a quote button in this chatting system. BloodySpghetti,

While desomorphine wouldn't be my first choice for murder it would work a lot better than caffeine. The LD50 of caffeine administered orally in rats is about 367 mg/kg. We hypothetically put Jimmy in the 20-25 kilo range so that would mean we would need around 8 grams of caffeine. Can you imagine how bitter eight grams of caffeine would be? I don't think you would have suspension of disbelief.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273230016301945

I would use carfentanil for murder. It has a LD50 of 0.05mg/kg. For our 20-25 kg kid, that's one around microgram. That's like five or six individual sugar grains. However, the name carfentanil is boring. The street names have some potential for use as story titles. Grey death, drop dead and serial killer. Unfortunately, names like "drop dead" and "serial killer" just don't fit with a candy name themed story. Candy themed stories could have a drug under a "fabricated" street name. It's a story after all... Caffeine was just an example because apparently some caffeine pills/blocks/candies/something apparently killed two people. It could be any kind of drug for all I care if it has to do with just a sick man dope murdering kids, or people. Otherwise, this is simply underwhelming when Krokodil is being mentioned.