Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-24077689-20140312170844/@comment-10950063-20140313033705

You're not going to please everyone. There's essentially two factions.

-The people who hate the rules and standards. They think the site isn't fun because they can't do whatever they want. They also see it as an assault on their creativity.

-The people who want the standards and think they are the only thing that can help the site.

This site has a ton of problems:

-The rules are a complete mess. There's a ton of stuff missing, a ton that don't get followed anymore.

-The quality standards are incomplete.

-Deadweight in the ranks. There are people with user rights who don't do their jobs. The site would be easier to maintain if people who were supposed to pull their weight did pull their weight.

-Chat drama massively overshadows issues with the main site.

-People are not properly matched up with their duties. Skelly has told me numerous times that he's not good at giving feedback. So, why is he doing the majority of deletions on the site? That's why people get pissed off. It's not his fault and he knows what passes standards and what doesn't, but it seems like a really poor system that generates so much animosity from someone doing their job. People who are good at feedback should be handling the bulk of deletions. People who are good are editing and formatting should be doing that. Etc. This is a huge issue with a lot of people who want to help. Sometimes what they want to do is something they're not really suited for. This causes frustration at every end.

-Lack of attention paid to comment moderation and answering questions posed in blogs and on the forum.

-Even the smallest things. The welcome message that people get automatically after their first edit needs to be drastically changed so it gives people a more comprehensive run-down of site rules and expectations. Stuff like that.

The site is kind of rotted all the way through. It can probably be fixed, but it would require effort that it seems a lot of people don't want to put forth.