Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-36052213-20180802015552/@comment-36542286-20180811042425

Jdeschene wrote: DrBobSmith wrote: I read the charges. I have had some experiences with Helel ben Shahaar. A couple of the interactions have left me pissed, I admit. On the other hand, I don't want to do his job. It's thankless. No matter what you do, somebody is pissed at you. He is our JANITOR. You got to expect janitors to stink sometimes when scrubbing the toilets after all the trollpastas.

I also separate "at the job site behavior" and "off work behavior." If he were an American, he would have the right of free speech. That includes the right to stick his head up his ass and be a total jerk when he is on his own time as long as what he is doing doesn't attack the site or the participants. If he is an asshole in his private expression offsite then keep away from him.

I think Helel should be more polite. Hopefully, this will encourage him to hang back and think before posting snarky comments, offensive names or groundless accusations. That said, what he is accused of is crap a NORMAL level user can do. I don't see that he has abused his Admin authority and lowering him down to a common jerk like me wouldn't change things. Free speech does not and has never meant exemption from consequences. And whether or not his behavior would change upon being demoted is irrelevant. Keeping him as an admin means the people who run the wiki support and condone what he's doing and how he's behaving. Keeping Helel doesn't mean the wiki/staff condone what he did(in my opinion nothing wrong), you're giving off witch hunty vibes i got off the SCP wiki and other places poisoned by overly offended people.