Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-25393922-20140923214039/@comment-5619531-20140924102125

niv class="quote"> Steam Phoenix wrote: Fatal Disease wrote: Honestly, you guys got the chat for discussion now. If you guys can't get chat hacks, but want an admin meeting, then there's w:c:cpn:Special:Chat for it. You don't really need that wiki to be scraped or cleaned to use the chat or the site over there. Just wait patiently for people to arrive. We also have talk pages for users to ask an admin to talk privately on the chat here. If they're banned? Then ask the user an alternative way to this stuff (aka the CPN wiki, since the wiki was made for that, with or without a clean up).

The pros are easy. What's the bitch about this proposal is the cons, which is why I am opposing this proposal. It's not like the first time back in February and staff were forced to give out their emails and if they refuse they're demoted from their right. Someone in the staff may not like to give out that personal information, and it can be a bitch just getting contact from them. Plus with the password change with the sites personal email and it's a big wiki, chances are that this password change is going to happen a lot.

This is not about admins giving out their emails. Just because we have venues doesn't necessarily mean we shouldn't have other venues to use as well. This is for a sole collective email, and though listed as a con, I have to say I don't see it getting changed a large amount considering that staff members are very rarely demoted. True on that, but an email can be the very same thing as a talk page; it can get ignored by the admin by other mail or filled with spam by a user who is pissed.

And just because that you guys have other venues doesn't mean that some of you use them properly, so why do you think that this might work as a secondary source? Some of you guys ignore questions on your talk pages because you're tired of talking about the topic with the same person, or that it's simple requests that a person wants permission on. Most of these messages are ignored for days, maybe weeks. The only good thing that I see about this is talking about other blocks with the blocking admin. But there's other sources for that that doesn't make an admin cough up their email or making a gmail account for CPW.