Board Thread:Administration/@comment-4832646-20140318213355/@comment-4832646-20140319144516

Defrether wrote: I do not care beyond this point, and I see it like this. (And yes, I know it's only for 2 weeks) If the CHAT goes down, the SITE, will soon follow. You can't give peopel the site, and then expect them to just edit, that's tantamount to them working in a cubicle with no interaction with each other.

By removing the chat, You are removing the people, and the possibility of more stories, and some of them are very good, because a good majority of these stories start in chat as a collaboration.

As for "Being encouraged to use the forums", again, tantamount to putting them in a cubicle. They need SOCIAL interaction, if they are to help on this site. People don't want to just edit things, sometimes, they need to take a break and go talk with people on the chat, laugh a bit, then go back to editing. A "cubicle" has no such interactions.

Oh, so one person bitches about chat being an unruly place and everyone decides to be sheep and follow that? Funny, I haven't laughed harder at that. This site isn't going to get better without a chat.

Yes, I am a chat mod, but guess what? I understand these people's view points. Some of them think it would be beneficial, some of them don't.

Tl;dr The chat goes down, the site loses people and stories. There's more than just the chat. I got to know Nooth from forums, and a lot of what I know Guy as is from the forums and blogs, not chat.

Besides that, it won't lose people and stories. There are talk pages, forums, blogs, etc, for a reason. A user can use those for help. And people not just come here for chat. We aren't a chat site, we're a literature site. Sure, I like to chat. I like to socialize. But, keep in mind some of these things are in fact being blocked because users see the word "chat" and jump right in.

Some contribute little tidbit comments every now and then, but it's a pain in the ass to practically beg someone to edit or criticize, or even just write a single guide. Why? Because they're here for chat. No other reason. You even ask them to edit, you get the immediate refusal because they only like to chat. Paladin even said if the mod prereqs go through he would not go for mod anymore, because he doesn't want to edit. What does that say about the integrity of our users? Of our site?

Of course, shutting down chat won't help get people to edit, but at least some of us who care won't have to spend our time begging users who don't want to make a contribution. At very least it will show who is willing to assist their own site. The mod prereqs will have new want-to-be-mods 'earn their keep. 'If they honestly want the position, they'll do it. It's not too much to ask to make a decent contribution and help clean up the site.

If people can't live without 1 week, or even a month, of chat, then I wonder what the world has come to nowadays.