Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-5564808-20131226192356/@comment-24077689-20140115005730

Tycholarfero wrote: The issue never was with protecting anyone and/or politeness, and hell, it's not even the free speech quota. The issue is with where that person is when this person says it. Cymbal is an admin. It's flat out unprofessional, and terrible for public standards. Now I'm rather pleased that Cymbal can gauge his word, and he can have an opinion, which he can say, but due to him being in the position he is in right now, it does not warrant him too say it freely to an absolute. And friend or not, no matter respect or not, saying that he can freely say what he'd like is in-essence sucking up. You are stating that you'd like him to do as he'd please, as you'd have no issue with it at all, for he does deserve it, because he worked hard to get to where he is now, so I'd let him walk allll over me, like a good boy. And I will stick to where I stand on this matter. I'll concede to your first point. That's fair. You're right, having the position of admin does require a certain amount of discretion.

I never said I'd have no issue with it. With what I've been saying it's honestly a surprise that you think that. I said he can say what he wants, as can anyone, please note for one more time that I'm declaring I think that anyone should be allowed to say what they want without fear of being attacked. This is the issue, which deals directly with respect and politeness.

If Cym went out of his way and fucking attacked someone in an inflammatory manner, first of all I'd expect someone to speak out against it, and second of all I'd expect him to take the consequences of what he says. People in chat get banned all the time for what they say, they're suffering the consequences of their words. Even admin are held accountable for what they say here.

I jumped to Cym's defense because he was attacked without provocation. You seem to have a fucking shield around you about this point: it's not about the position. Fuck, it's not even about the person. It's about what was said. You should be allowed to say whatever you want, however you want to say it. As long as what you're saying isn't directly harmful or impeding the rights of anyone else I see no problem with it. What Ziso said was uncalled for, that's what the issue for me is. Ergo, yes, the issue is about politeness and respect. Whatever your issue is with me is irrelevant to why I said what I said in the first place.

I'm genuinely amazed at your last point, that's the most ridiculous and erroneous attack on my character and my opinion I've ever heard.