Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-36052213-20180802015552/@comment-4998996-20180802203607

After some deliberation, discussing with the accused, and looking at the evidence in this thread I throughly believe that there is no reason to demote Helel. Yes, their behavior at times can come off as threatening and rude and that's not a good thing but having discussed this with them Helel knows it would be better to change the tone they sometimes use here on the wiki to a more professional one and perhaps keep the in jokes to a minimum as it may have new users come to believe that that behavior is okay without them fulling understanding the context.

In regards to my blog being deleted and then reinstated I am not sure as to why it is being brought up, that situation was handled rather quickly with both myself and Helel apologizing to one another. Sure a mistake was made but that mistake was rectified, discussed, and dealt with in a civil manner with Helel acting precisely as how an admin should. My misinterpretation of his comment as a threat was just that, a misinterpretation. It was not meant to be one.

Now, I refuse to believe the misgendering and use of a dead name was not done without some back and forth between the two of you in which case it was done off wiki and in a moment of a heated discussion in which I am sure both of you said some things you shouldn't have said. However I do not see the full context of what happened being presented here as screenshots of what you said as well are strangely missing as if to purposefully minconstrew the situation into making Helel look worse. If that is the case than shame on you, you should know better.

Now to address Llanunall, I do not why you went out of your way to make a blog post instead of just posting all that same information here in the thread itself where it is pretinent and that seems oddly suspicious to me. So allow me to hazard a guess as to why you have chosen to do so, I believe you know that some people may or may ignore the fact that this demotion thread is highlighted due to the fact they either just do not care for this kind of thing or because they do not know who Helel actually is. However if they were scrolling down the main page they'd see your blog post on the sidebar expressing your opinion of the whole situation using the very same information that is already highlighted right here in the thread, basically retreading the same ground covered by the thread as if it were new information in an effort to draw attention to this thread to have more people come and vote on the thread. Those people may just jump to the bottom of the thread, leave their vote, and ignore the things said by other users in this very thread that either refute points of Helel's own defense of himself. If I am correct in this judgement than it'd be disingenious of me to simply leave it be without saying something about it. Ultimately your blog post on the matter comes of as underhanded and decietful as nothing you put forth absolutely could not be said here in the thread and none of it is new information. Get your act together if that is the case. Lead by example.