Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-36052213-20180802015552

Hello everyone,

I’m here today to propose the demotion of one of the admins of our community, Helel, for many different reasons, including misbehaving, immaturity, harassment and discrimination against users related to this wiki.

Before stating the arguments, I would like to inform everyone that I’m not a troll or a hate account to attack Helel; I’ve been active or checking out this website for four years, and I was best known as ScrewYouDinkleberg and I did plenty of volunteering here as a rollbacker and as the now defunct VCROC. Furthermore, this is not a thread to “demonize” Helel as a person, but rather as an admin who holds an important position in the community and who is inappropriately playing his role as an admin. And before voting, I suggest you that you read rule 6 of the Demotion Policy to be greatly aware of it. With all of that in mind, here are the arguments.

•	There are many evidences that Helel harasses users on this site, from newcomers to respected people of our community. You can see in this picture that a new user comes to the site and simply gives his opinion on a story. Helel is clearly trashing the new user just for the innocent comment they made, which is valid criticism and such mockery was far from appropriate.

•	In this picture, you can see a certainly young user who does a pretty silly comment. The admin then takes advantage of her naiveness to mock her as an attempt to make her feel unwelcome, instead of educating her to not make such a big deal out of character’s gender or simply ignoring it. He then involuntarily causes a circle jerk with user users to harass the original commenter, and as the final attempt of jerkiness, Helel responds in a mean and sarcastic tone to Cleric who told the people involved to keep things civil. This shows how Helel’s behaviour contributes for our site to have a negative light online, making new users potentially turned off to contribute and possibly find future volunteers.

•	 Helel does not only harass young or new users, but he also can harass respected members of our community. In [https://creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:HumboldtLycanthrope/Creepypasta_Local_Boy_Done_Does_Good! Humbolt’s] latest blog, at first, Helel downgrades the work of one of our best writers on the site by mocking him, calling him a “pack member”, undervaluing Matthew’s clever references in his story of good writers by calling them imprecise like a “headless Coyote” running on his book pages. After Matthew calling out Helel’s bullying, our admin proceeds to devalue him again, calling him an “underdoge.” This is clear evidence of Helel’s arrogance for making himself superior to one of our respected writers just because, and also naiveness because the fact he probably thinks that it’s okay to mock people that way as an admin on a website for everyone to see and get away with it is absurd. That shows that he’s too childish to play the role of an admin on our website.

•	It’s also notable that Helel misunderstands genuine concerns and criticism with hate. In this page, which I like to call it his Hate Wall, was based on Empy’s Salt Mines. However, Helel partially misses the point of Empy’s original concept, which is to put together real hate and troll comments, to instead put these kinds of comments, together with actual concerns and criticism. For example, one of the messages is of a confused user who is simply asking why his story was deleted and he doesn’t understand why. Instead of Helel explaining the reason to him, he simply puts the message on that wall, as if it was an attack, and eh mocks the user. Another example is of a user simply commenting on what he thinks of our warning system. Helel unnecessarily put that on his hate page just because of an inoffensive complaint, and he once again accuses the user of bad behaviour. These messages show how unwelcoming Helel can be to new users who come to this site.

•	And on top of that, after an event that nobody saw it coming on a chat server, I was ignored by Helel after I complained on his talk page, confused of what happened. Then, he erased my message from his main talk page, which is against the rules, and I got put on his hate wall; And there, he called me Jimmy. That may not sound a big deal stand alone, but to put that into context, I’m a transgender woman, and James is my dead name. He’s fully aware of my correct name and gender, as I told him along with many others several times what and who I am. Even after my persistence, he kept misgendering me as seen here. His stubbornness is a clear act of transphobia, and he uses this verbal violence to discriminate and devalue my existence even more than the usual. This behaviour shouldn’t be acceptable in a community that supposedly should welcome and not harass people of all types who come to a singular interest. This behaviour can possibly make users see the website in a negative light, by seeing a presence of a bigot in an important role as an admin.

•	Helel also has shown to have flawed communication skills regarding important decisions, such as deleting ChaoZ’s blog without the consent of other admins and crats. That blog shows really important information regarding the upcoming Creepypasta Convention in 2020. It exposes the shady things done by the people behind the convention, which are good to be aware of for those who wish to attend. Helel at first deleted the blog without anyone’s consent, censoring important information regarding the event, and even threatening Chao to be careful with what he exposes, although Chao did nothing wrong.

•	And finally, Helel has proven himself to be hostile against other writers who don’t agree with us. Not too long ago, Helel sent a link on a chat server to a YouTube video of Slimebeast exposing audio of one of our admins. He then tells people to leave comments in that video (likely bad ones, as his personality wouldn’t tell people to send positive ones) to erase Banning’s name in a “blacklist,” and he clearly emphasizes that the problem of the video is not the leaked footage, but Slimebeast. This shows how immature and vile Helel is towards people who disagree with us and are genuinely scared of what they could experience, although I myself doubt that Banning would attack someone in real life outside a warzone.

In conclusion, it’s evident that it’s evident that Helel's actions on this wiki have shown that he is not ready to be an admin given his condescending and at times acerbic interactions with users, misunderstanding of criticism for aggression, and his handling of off-site matters like the Creepypasta convention video. He seems unaware that his actions and comments can hurt people and can ruin his image, and since he’s an admin, they can hurt the community as well, since he supposedly represents us. Helel has proven himself that he is too emotionally and mentally immature to handle admin rights for our community. Future potentially good contributors to our site can be turned off by his behaviour, and his behaviour hurts the site overall. Although he is one of the most active admins nowadays and he does the basic job of an admin to delete stories, warn and block users, he can’t properly handle other sides of being an admin. Demoting him would leave the website with one less admin, however, I personally find it better to have one less admin than keeping one hostile admin in the team.

Thank you.

 