Board Thread:Administration/@comment-4832646-20140318213355/@comment-24077689-20140319221313

Scorch933 wrote: Noothgrush wrote: Scorch, way to totally miscontrue what I was saying.

It's not surprising that the most aggressive person in this thread is one that's not only currently banned from chat but has had several offenses all related to one form of abuse or another.

But if we can get back to the topic here:

In the Off Topic forum I created an intro thread to help facilitate the good feels between our community. As you can see when I first commented, I'm apparently unknown to regular chat users, meanwhile almost every regular of the main site knows me in one form or another.

The Chat is an extension of the website. It shouldn't be treated as a separate entity. We've established that good has come out of it, but the overall good it's done is negligible when you take into account the current state of the website. The chat is the absolute least of our worries on the list of things that need attention. Even if chat users aren't coming out in droves to edit, they can do a whole hell of a lot of good by just being here and participating. 1. I got banned for one day because I used a slur that was, previously that day, not a bannable offense. I was unaware. TWO: THANK YOU FOR USING MY BAN RECORD AGAINST ME and my logic. I appreciate that, because it shows just how professional you are.

2: You are absolutely right, ON-TOPIC. It's not a seperate entity, user should be participating in the wiki. The chat really doesn't do any good for the wiki. You're right, that was a low blow, I apologize. I'm washing my hands of the petty bullshit from here on out.

Well, we've established that the chat can and does do good things for the wiki, occasionally. What my whole thing was this entire time is shut down chat for a while and get people back an involved in the whole. Make this place a pleasant and pleasurable place to be for everyone. So that includes A) dissolution of the clique mentality and B) ending this hostile and counterproductive idea of the main site. We're not a bunch of gremlins, we should attempt to fix this apparently negative image that so many have of us.

And this has been brought up before. Continue reviewing and editing as normal, but remove the perception of hostility a lot of new users get from early experiences. I think one pretty clear way to judge this would be with blogs. I want to see less blogs involving any of the following:

"Yup I'm leaving, you guys are dicks"

"OMG DELETED MY STORY OMGOGJGGHGJ"

"This place isn't fun"

Lets make this an enjoyable place to spend time. Shutting down the chat for a short, very temporary span of time, might just help to spur on this community and get things kickstarted in the right direction. And one major amendment that I think needs to be observed: make EVERYONE aware. Make it a point that for a period no shorter than that which the shut down will be we have a bot announce in chat every hour an announcement "chat will be shut down on X day until X day" and have it on the homepage in pretty red letters so that there is no excuse for anybody to not know about it.

And as for moderators. It makes sense that moderators are required to help out to a set amount on the main site to get the position. Once they're moderators, they're free to do their duties, but once again the site and chat are not separate entities, it doesn't make sense to have a mod that was literally only here for chat. They should be here for the site, chat should be a secondary perk.