Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-10950063-20140312232336

This is something I was going to do before I stepped down. After talking with LOLSKELETONS and seeing how poorly the main site is being maintained, I figured I might as well do it. There are consequences when users don't do what they're supposed to. The same needs to apply for people with user rights.

Fatal is one of the most active members, you can almost always find him in chat. Yet he does next to nothing with his user rights. Look through these logs: http://creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Log See how often Fatal's name appears. Yeah, it's in there, but it's not even close to proportionate to the time he spends on the site.

It is not uncommon for poor quality stories, spam blogs and comments, unconstructive edits and a whole host of things to not be dealt with while he is around. These can be left for hours, possibly not even being taken care of at all. Some of these stories don't even involve checking recent activity to be found, because other users have already tagged them as "Delete Now."

Fatal seems to refuse to do deletion appeal. Even when he's asked directly, he will take more than an hour to clear two appeals.

Fatal has shown to be unfamiliar with the rules and procedures of the site. For the longest time he would tell people that video game pastas were blacklisted. This was not true. He regularly bans people for category violations, a really minor thing, without giving a warning first.

I had talked to Fatal about this before. Semi-indirectly in the moderator evaluation thread. Specifically, this post. Then, more directly in this one. Most of my posts in that thread are about admin laziness.

Later, when nothing changed, I asked Fatal if he had read the thread. He told me he had. Then I told him he needed to help out when he was on-site. And he did, for maybe a couple days. Now, he barely does anything.

User rights are something a person asks for. Even if someone comes to you and says, "Hey, you should apply for a position," there's nothing forcing you to take them. It's not fair to others when you don't do your share of work. It's not fair and after awhile it starts to piss them off. A big part of the reason I stepped down is because of Fatal and another admin (who I won't name, because I never spoke to them about these issues). This site is ridiculously hard to maintain. It's not okay for ACTIVE people to not do what they're supposed to.

Before this gets opened up, let me address a few things I anticipate coming up:

 because fatal is a good guy- Just because Fatal is your friend does not make him a good administrator. It's fine if you don't agree with the removal of his rights, but give a good reason.

People have lives, they don't need to be on the site all the time- 100% agree. This isn't a job. The issue isn't that Fatal isn't around and isn't doing work. It's that he IS around and isn't doing work.

But if your remove an admin, then there will just be less people doing work- Really, there will be the same amount of people doing work. If he were a productive admin, this thread wouldn't exist.

Since Fatal doesn't use his ability to review deleted stories, doesn't often delete stories, doesn't do much of anything, I think it makes sense to reduce his rights to rollback.

 