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Okay so apparently most of you don't know this but VCROC was first created to make admins without chat mod abilities. Now that we have no chat why don't we promote all VCROC to proper administrators and scrap the redundant group?
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<p>We can still use VCROC as a means for vetting potential candidates for Admin as well. Without it, we would promote a user straight from rollback with little to no experience in how to manage the new rights.
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<p>EmpyrealInvective wrote:
We can still use VCROC as a means for vetting potential candidates for Admin as well. Without it, we would promote a user straight from rollback with little to no experience in how to manage the new rights.
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<p>VCROC is only missing the ability to view deleted pages... </p>
<p>VCROC is only missing the ability to view deleted pages... </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>Shining-Armor wrote:
<p>VCROC is only missing the ability to view deleted pages...
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<p>VCROC cannot delete blog posts as well. </p>
<p>VCROC cannot delete blog posts as well. </p>
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<p>Shining-Armor wrote:
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<p>EmpyrealInvective wrote:
We can still use VCROC as a means for vetting potential candidates for Admin as well. Without it, we would promote a user straight from rollback with little to no experience in how to manage the new rights.
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<p>VCROC is only missing the ability to view deleted pages... </p> </div> <p>Yeah, but it still allows for bureaucrats to see how someone would handle that type of position. (As opposed to promoting someone who turns out to be a bad fit.) Why waste the time removing that title and promoting users who may/may not want the added responsibility of deletion appeal? </p>
<p>VCROC is only missing the ability to view deleted pages... </p> </div> <p>Yeah, but it still allows for bureaucrats to see how someone would handle that type of position. (As opposed to promoting someone who turns out to be a bad fit.) Why waste the time removing that title and promoting users who may/may not want the added responsibility of deletion appeal? </p>
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<p>The reasons for keeping are so incredibly stupid.
</p><p>"We can test their ability to be admin by giving them the same rights as an admin but give them a different name".
</p><p>You add maybe 4 extra things when you go from VCROC to Admin.
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<div class="quote"><i>ScrewYouDinkleberg wrote:
<div class="quote">Shining-Armor wrote: <p>VCROC is only missing the ability to view deleted pages... </p> </i></div>
VCROC cannot delete blog posts as well. </div> <p>Actually, I can. Pretty sure that not being able to view deleted pages and not having chat mod rights are what seperate me from the admins. </p><p>That, and a lot more responsibility will be on my shoulders. I don't feel ready for that now and when I do I'll be making an admin application. I'm also not so certain how easily rollbacks could transtition from that to admin as well- it's a HUGE step up and VCROC seems like a good middle ground between the two. </p>
<div class="quote">Shining-Armor wrote: <p>VCROC is only missing the ability to view deleted pages... </p> </i></div>
VCROC cannot delete blog posts as well. </div> <p>Actually, I can. Pretty sure that not being able to view deleted pages and not having chat mod rights are what seperate me from the admins. </p><p>That, and a lot more responsibility will be on my shoulders. I don't feel ready for that now and when I do I'll be making an admin application. I'm also not so certain how easily rollbacks could transtition from that to admin as well- it's a HUGE step up and VCROC seems like a good middle ground between the two. </p>
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<p>I wouldn't be comfortable with VCROC being able to do deletion appeals. IMO that should only be handled by people who have proven they know what is and isn't quality.
</p><p>Otherwise I can't think of a reason for keeping it.
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<div class="quote"><i>Grizzly Bear wrote:
<div class="quote">ScrewYouDinkleberg wrote:
<div class="quote">Shining-Armor wrote: <p>VCROC is only missing the ability to view deleted pages... </p> </i></div>
VCROC cannot delete blog posts as well.</div>Actually, I can. </div> <p>Well, that's weird. I don't remember myself deleting blog posts as a former VCROC, but I'll try again if I get the rights back. </p>
<div class="quote">ScrewYouDinkleberg wrote:
<div class="quote">Shining-Armor wrote: <p>VCROC is only missing the ability to view deleted pages... </p> </i></div>
VCROC cannot delete blog posts as well.</div>Actually, I can. </div> <p>Well, that's weird. I don't remember myself deleting blog posts as a former VCROC, but I'll try again if I get the rights back. </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>LOLSKELETONS wrote:
I wouldn't be comfortable with VCROC being able to do deletion appeals. IMO that should only be handled by people who have proven they know what is and isn't quality. <p>Otherwise I can't think of a reason for keeping it. </p> </i></div>
<p>Deletion and Spinoff appeal are a big deal, so this reason is enough to don't shut down VCROC applications. </p>
I wouldn't be comfortable with VCROC being able to do deletion appeals. IMO that should only be handled by people who have proven they know what is and isn't quality. <p>Otherwise I can't think of a reason for keeping it. </p> </i></div>
<p>Deletion and Spinoff appeal are a big deal, so this reason is enough to don't shut down VCROC applications. </p>
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<p>You could simply ask certain admins to <i>not</i> do them...
</p><p>Like, how hard would it be to say "Yo dawg, I don't think you should do deleteion appeals just yet since you just got your rights and all. Best break that shit in and then we can talk. Cool?"
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