"The Slender Man. He exists because you thought of him. Now try and not think of him."-Username "I," posted June 15th, 2009 on the Something Awful forums. (User was later banned for "post(ing) like a weird fucker.")
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@Emilysweetheart i am aware that the creator of Sonic.exe is a terrible scumbag, but we cannot erase history. And i know that it's filled with cliches and they are badly written, but again, i don't understand why we cannot make an exception for something as historically important to creepypasta culture and general internet culture as these things, i do not support or defend the original creator of Sonic.exe, but as horrible as he is, just because someone is a terrible person doesn't mean they didn't have an undeniable effect on the world at large, i wish it wasn't that way, i wish everyone who had the capibility of changing the world wasn't a piece of shit, but unfortunately its not something anyone can change. The Shining is an extremely praised and reevered movie and also Stanley Kubrik was like a piece of shit throughout the entire production of it and for some reason focused on abusing one of the main actresses. It's still one of the most influential and important pieces of media in the world, for better AND for worse. You can't even apply that logic to JTK as while there's claims and evidence to who made it, nothing is directly confirmed, and again, as bad as it is it's still historically important. I again bring up the fact that Dead Bart is still on the website and it is also very bad and is the origin of a lot of really overused lost episode cliches, but that doesn't mean its not historically important, therefor it should be kept on the wiki, and it is. Why doesn't this apply to JTK and Sonic.exe? I'm not saying allow "The Killer" and .exe pastas (as much as i've argued they can be good), i'm just saying make an exception to some of the most important aspects of internet horror history and culture, you are already doing that with a decent amount of classic historical pastas that aren't relatively good. and anyone with a brain that actually gives 2 fucks about creepypasta knows that they're bad and not representative of creepypasta culture, and anyone who doesn't understand that, probably either hates or doesn't care about creepypasta anyways.
Its true!
I checked the linked threads and editing history and apparently both Sonic.exe and Jeff The Killer were deleted in *2014* and for some reason haven't been restored in a decade??? From a decision like 7 now inactive users took literally 10 years ago. The fact that this decision has not changed in 10 years is insane to me, and while these are obviously still readable and are directly linked on those deleted pages it still feels so weird to me you have to go to a different wiki to read them even though they're some of the most popular and influential creepypasta online, and that becomes even more strange when Dead Bart is on the wiki, no offense cause i love that creepypasta it's one of my favorites, but that one is REALLY bad, so i don't understand why that one gets to stay and not Sonic.exe or JTK. I know they're bad and not good but their historical importance is undeniable and they deserve to be on THE creepypasta wiki for that exact reason.
@Purpleocean2 thats fucking badass. is that Jeff or an oc?
I like him
Creepypasta-ing them would present them in a different interesting format(s) and allow them to do something more weird and specific and interactive and on top of that let them do their own version and take of that piece of media
@William See I don't think creepypastas HAVE to be scary. I'd say most horror media isn't scary or trying to scare you. And just because something is corny or not scary doesn't mean it doesn't have thought put into it, I like things that are accidentally corny, i also like things that are purposefully corny, i want people to appreciate the artistic value of creepypasta beyond the ability to scare people, i want creepypasta thats supposed to make you disgusted and make you puke, i want creepypastas that are supposed to trip you out or confuse you, i want creepypastas that are funny, or weird, or stupid but you can still enjoy them, i want a creepypasta that deals with how ridiculous a concept can be to the point of absurdist comedy horror, where it's so stupid but it's real and it ruins your life, it being silly just adds to the frustration, i like creepypasta about something that doesn't kill you but just kind of bothers you and has no explanation and you can't do anything about it. That isn't really scary. Doesn't have to be. Creepypasta as any medium can be used to explore weird interesting concepts and ideas, and present them in an interesting format. I dunno, that's that
@MAXPOINTYHAT831 I disagree with that. Just because something is silly doesn't mean it shouldn't be taken seriously or that it shouldn't be respected. Things can be stupid and comedic, but they can also be some of the best pieces of art you've ever seen in your life, things like Resident Evil and Evil Dead are fucking stupid, that doesn't make them any less masterpieces, Awful Hospital has some of the stupidest and funniest moments i've ever read in anything, and it also has some of the most powerful, emotional, sad and genuinely disturbing things in anything. People really can't understand that things being funny or silly or dumb doesn't mean that it doesn't take itself seriously when in my opinion its the opposite, a piece of media that is confident enough to be silly and dumb and simultanously pull off amazing artistic merit is way more respectable than something insecure that worries to much about being seen as stupid. Again, i recommend Bogleech's creepypastas for an example, either that or Marble Hornets cause Jay is a fucking dumbass that does and says stupid shit but also manages to genuinely be a tragic sad depressing story.
I feel like this is a problem that both creepypasta fans/writers and creepypasta dislikers have. I feel like everyone's so limited in what a creepypasta can be, even considering how fragmented the concept and community creepypasta is (Traditional definition, it's popular subgenres, videogame pastas, lost episode pastas, creepypasta fandom, creepypasta mansion, creepypasta adaptation etc.), i feel like everyone has this one thing in their brains that they consider a creepypasta. Why does it HAVE to be this one format? Does it really need to be first person? Does it really need to be linear? Does it really need to be diagetic? And does it need to be scary? A lot of horror isn't scary and isn't trying to be scary, a lot of horror is just utilizing these concepts and aesthetics to tell a cool, interesting, compelling, or stylized story, Invader Zim gets very disturbing sure, but at the end of the day it's also a funny kids show, Evil Dead 2 and AOD have horror in it, and while i don't particularly find these 2 films that scary (AOD specially) they're still awesome and cool and badass, and also very silly and funny. Writers like Bogleech understand the inherent silliness of Creepypasta, he understands it can be dumb and funny and weird and he just embraces that, he gets that the internet is a funny place with funny people, Terry's Toon Saloon has a lot of really funny dialogue and concepts and yet it still manages to have a strong concept, format, and story, and even creeped me the fuck out, the horror comes from the knowledge of themes and implications we've been building up while reading, it's that final twist, that final image, that realization that something very, very bad has happened. It's wonderful. Terry's Toon Saloon also has an element of despair and sadness, existential dread, of seeing something, not disturbing or horrifying, but upsetting, something that changes your perspective forever, it delves with this thing that i've experience myself --"I tried to cheer myself up today, I put on some of my all-time favorites... the real Betty Boop. The Chuck Jones and Doctor Seuss team-ups. Duck Dodgers. But, they kind of didn't feel fun anymore. Maybe its just a lingering glass-half-empty outlook Ill come out of, i hope so, but right now its like these toons all look dreary and petty and mean to me, like putting on a new pair of glasses and now you can see all your boyfriends zits. My favorites just arent making me laugh right now, there just making me feel lonely and weird, like im too aware im watching the labor of people who are mostly old or gone. What felt "naive" about old media feels "ignorant" to me now, which is just a little difference maybe, but its not a fun one." -- This horrible feeling, of not enjoying what you used to enjoy anymore, it's heart wrenching, it's fucking painful, this is a pure representation of psychological dread, it's wonderful, this is beyond horror, this is bogleech making me feel upset, this is him making me feel existentially sad, and forcing me to feel the same emotion of having something you enjoy be ruined. It's amazing. Burgrr and Harmburger are so good too, Harmburger specially feels like something out of roger rabbit combined with cronenberg, it's so cool to imagine this giant disgusting rotten cartoon hamburger try to chop you up with a knife, its so fucking cool. So i don't get it, why are people so fixated on creepypastas *having* to be scary? Things like Sonic.OMT and SMLWIki i think got it right, because most of those aren't actually trying to scare you, they're just taking the known creepypasta tropes and utilizing for wonderful artistic value, it's not trying to scare you, it's trying to show you a story, or art, or an emotional thing. A lot of pastas in the creepypasta cookoff that bog used to hold fall in this category too, Alice went to sleep is not some chilling tale thats going to keep me up at night, it's just kind of a macabre, sad, really fucked up story that ends with something completely surreal and a really strong visual. Or that one pasta about the rock band playing their final set at the end of the world, that one's not even horror in the traditional sense, there's supernatural stuff and there's definetely the existential horror of the end of the world, but it's more just a way to showcase a cool idea and concept, and present a very nice beautiful emotional story, that ends in, everyone dying, but everyone dying happy, "The end of the world was as loud as they wanted it to be".
People should embrace the inherent silliness of the genre more, and while fully serious creepypasta are good, i feel like this is something more people have to understand, don't limit yourself, write anything. do it.
There is no such thing as cringe, and i honestly don't even know. Last time i checked Proxies are banned unfortunately, i personally disagree with that, i have many ideas for slenderman and slenderverse related stuff, you should make it anyways, you don't need to post it here. I encourage you to do so.
No i think Xmonsterbixchx misunderstood, they're not saying if these are creepypasta, they're saying if they would work as creepypasta, and i think so, the ring and nightmare on elm street would be like actually very traditional and have like that classic creepypasta feel, urban legend and stuff, same thing as friday and maybe even scream and halloween, i think SH and ST could work well as creepypasta, imagine like a SH pasta written as a diary or a transcript of a recording, that could be very coool. Or any other format honestly, creepypasta can basically work with any premise if you know how to implement it.
Damn, alright, thank you anyways
I'm glad you did :)
Pasta is here for reference: https://creepypastafiles.fandom.com/wiki/Don%27t-Mind-Me
It's a very image heavy creepypasta, and i know i will have to reupload EVERY SINGLE PICTURE, which is very annoying, does anyone know of a way to uhm, not have to do that?
Not to say jeff can't be done well, it definetely has
Idk about overrated but in terms of quality and media surrounding it its definetely jeff. slenderman is like, interesting and cool, and has actually good content and media surrounding it (lots of his pastas, slenderverse etc.) eyeless jack and smile dog way less so but still have some pretty good stuff and a strong core concept even if theyre silly or dumb, jeff's original pasta sucks and is just overall terrible, and most of his surrounding media or reinterpretations are not that good either.
