So, if I understand what Cleric said correctly, it'd be OK to put like a note on my user page like "treat my stories as CC-BY" or something like that?
I thought you were a bestselling author since I thought I'd read somewhere or someone had said you'd written a bestseller and so many people praise you as one of the best creepypasta writers, and you are factually one of the most successful. Turns out I overestimated your success. My mistake.
My only concern is about whether I'm allowed to license my stories with a laxer licence than the default on this site, namely if I can make them CC-BY instead. And if not, whether I can still add like an informal note about having no interest in enforcing the SA part of the CC-BY-SA. That's it. No idea why you replied to my question, but at first I thought you were arguing in good faith.
I stress one last time, I have zero interest in how YOU restrict narrators' usage of YOUR STORIES. I just want to know if I can license MY STORIES with a less restrictive licence. If you want absolute airtight control of your stories and keep them away from narrators, that's fine. You do you.
Anyway, this is my last reply to you because clearly you're either not understanding the question and as such can't answer it, or you're trolling. The latter seems more likely with every reply, so yeah, I'm done.
If a moderator/admin/whoever sees this, could you please answer my question?
Okay, so with your edit to your latest reply, I can reply:
Me not having a problem wiht narrators narrating MY STORIES does not make me a "snarky asshole". I've said many times that if YOU don't want YOUR STORIES to be narrated, then don't fucking let people narrate them. It's that simple. In my opinion CC-BY is a better licence than CC-BY-SA, and so I'd prefer it if I can license my stories under it or at least let narrators know that it's fine if they treat my stories like they're CC-BY instead of CC-BY-SA even if technically they may be CC-BY-SA by being on this site.
If you don't have money in spite of being a bestselling author, fine, sorry for assuming.
I edited it to add the analogy and the question about how something that's comparable to a shop putting things on a discount is bad in your opinion. That's it. Everyone can see it's clearly what you replied to because your reply wouldn't even make any sense otherwise...
Again, if you don't want narrators to read your stories, nothing stops you from stopping them. You're a bestselling author for fuck's sake. Meanwhile, I'm fine with narrators reading my stories if they want as freely as they can. Why do you have such a problem with that?
Literally what the fuck are you on about? If a narrator reads a story licensed CC-BY (or CC-BY-SA or whatever) and credits the author, HOW THE FUCK is the author of the story a thief?
Also, what do you mean by "entitled liars"?
That's not even close to what I said, though... I guess Slimebeast never changes, huh?
Like, what I'm saying is I prefer CC-BY over CC-BY-SA because it has less restrictions. I want less restrictions on how people can use my stories. How does that make me the shoplifter in your analogy? It'd be more like if I had a store and was putting things on a discount.
How is that bad in your opinion?
Well, from the perspective of capitalism, making a profit is making a profit. Personally I think it's unfortunate that people are so obsessed with money and I wish society wasn't so capitalistic and self-centered, but there's literally nothing I can do about it. Besides, I can understand people wanting to make money doing what they enjoy; if they can make money doing something they enjoy, why shouldn't they? Everyone has to pay their bills somehow.
I highly doubt creepypasta narrators on Youtube are swimming in money, anyway. If they can pay their bills by narrating stories, giving those stories and their writers more publicity as they do, how is that a bad thing for anyone?
Also, I did say I'm only speaking for myself. If you don't want anyone to use your stories in any way, that's up to you... no one's stopping you from going all the way and suing the shit out of youtubers who dare to narrate your stories. I mean, I assume you can actually afford to sue people unlike most of us, so why would it be a concern for you? Apparently you've also deleted all of your stories from this site, so why are you even concerned about the licensing of stories here?
I just saw this (a bit late, I know) and haven't read most of the comments, so I apologise in advance if this has already been answered, but I wanted to ask:
Is this going to be enforced on authors' behalves? If not, is it OK to add a "treat my stories as CC-BY, even if they're legally CC-BY-SA" note?
I mean, I think it's nice when Youtube creepypasta narrators read my stories and don't want any more inconvenience for them. Obviously I prefer it if they credit me for writing the story in the video description, but this is the internet so I don't expect everyone to behave respectfully and/or abide by the law. Still, "pls credit me?" is CC-BY, so...
Would it be OK to have like a note on my profile that says "feel free to treat my stories as if they were CC-BY, even though this site licenses them under CC-BY-SA. I'm not going to sue you or anything" or something like that?
As a disclaimer, I'm only speaking for myself. I know a lot of people feel differently about all of this, wanting total control of their works. I just want to know if we have the option to do that if we want, or if Fandom or the mods of the Creepypasta Wiki or whoever will send takedown requests on authors' behalves. I'd hope they won't, but...?
EDIT: Apparently this is the same thread as the old one about the same subject, haha. For some reason I got a notification about it in my email a couple of days ago. Well, my question isn't exactly the same as the old questions I had, so...
But what if it's the other way around? If I first post it here, then somewhere else, like Blogger for example. Would I need to explicitly note that it's licenced CC-BY-SA, because otherwise the CC-BY-SA that the story was licenced under when I posted it on this Wiki would be voided? Or would it still stand because it's less restrictive than full copyright, and rights can only be loosened but not tightened...?
That just sounds too good to be true. Like, how could something be licenced in two different ways at the same time? I'd like people to be able to do whatever they want with my stories provided that they credit me as the author, which is in theory what CC-BY-SA guarantees, but what if on another site everything is automatically licenced under a full copyright? Wouldn't that mean I can't post my story there if I've already posted it here since I'd be violating the licencing that I published my story under by posting it here?
So, I was right all along when I assumed that the second I post my stories here, I no longer have the right to post them elsewhere? Disappointing, but not surprising. I always found this site to be by far the most convenient, so I'll almost certainly keep posting my stories here. Besides, in theory CC-BY-SA is the perfect licence... I just have the same worries as HopelessNightOwl, that random people could pretend to be the authors of stories in order to get them deleted (and not just from here, but narrations on Youtube, etc. as well).
Another question, which is hopefully not considered off-topic (even though it's pretty specific) since it's still about licencing on this Wiki: for a long and complex story that's still mostly just in the planning stage, I've been writing smaller "foundational stories" and posting them anonymously on 4chan, 8chan and Reddit for about five years to establish "lore" or whatever; when I get around to finishing the full story (and posting it here), which could be years from now, would I have the right to quote those? I obviously can't change their licencing since they're already gone and/or archived, and don't even have any way to prove that I wrote them... besides, including something like "licenced CC-BY-SA" would completely break the realism of stories that are supposed to be "true".
Well, anyway, hopefully this licencepocalypse won't lead to the site dying.
Can you give me the context? Genuinely not sure.
"Many had had their eyes gouged out and their teeth had been dislodged or chipped off, tongues wrenched out of their mouths and their fingers broken, sticking out in crooked shaped with which they reached out at me."
There are also a few (borderline?) incorrect prepositions in the same story (the Yellow), which I might fix along with that typo of "shapes" and reverting the change in wording if it wasn't necessary. If it was necessary, meh, I guess I should still replace the prepositions?
I agree, because I had interpreted it as the FATHER being the rapist
The father is the rapist.
Does "that they reached out at me with" count as one? I think it's perfectly grammatical, but Jdeschene changed it to "with which they reached out at me". Also, oops... I never noticed that I'd misspelled "shapes" as "shaped" in that sentence (EDIT: and now I typoed "shaped", the typo, as "shapes", the non-typo... heh); I'll fix that as soon as I know whether the change in wording is actually a correction. Kind of ironic that a sentence with a typo that was edited didn't include a correction of the typo, though... :P
Mmh... honestly, I always mess up the quotation marks because OpenOffice's quotation marks are apparently not actually quotation marks. Or at least everyone always changes them to different ones when I post my stories here, and I never remember to copy and paste those ones in place of OpenOffice's ones... (EDIT again: and I've accidentally re-replaced them with the apparently incorrect ones in at least one story... oh well...)
I took some time to think about your criticisms, and although I still don't really see it as being too ambiguous, I get why it might feel that way to readers. Maybe I should've expanded it with more concrete stuff, but I consider it finished so I won't; if it's deleted, I won't complain (although I will feel sad that I probably won't be allowed to post it elsewhere thanks to the Creative Commons licence).
As for the acrostic (I didn't know it was called that, thanks Bloody), it should be obvious that it wasn't meant as a "clever" thing. I mean, the fact that presumably literal thirteen-year-olds have used it so much that it's apparently become disliked pretty much means it can't be clever. I also already mentioned that it was simply an exercise in restrictive writing. Since I'm a fairly slow writer, I figured I'd do it with an actual story instead of just some random paragraphs that I'd never post anywhere.
Maybe I should stick to weird body horror with graphic descriptions of stuff rather than trying to write anything atmospheric and vague since I'm clearly not yet able to pull the latter off well enough, but I'll keep trying anyway. Sorry for my ass behaviour.
I don't like how almost every time I post on the forums is to complain, but I have a question: why do people change the wording in stories or replace correct spellings with incorrect ones? I get that they have good intentions, but at least I get annoyed when people "improve" my stories... I mean, I know I often use "weird" words and sentences that may feel "tacky" or whatever, but whether something is "tacky" or "doesn't flow well", etc. is ultimately subjective.
Like, of course there are literary standards, but it's not like everything I write is full of misspellings and ungrammatical sentences. It's nice when actual misspellings are corrected, but changes to the wording or sentence structures in general? Why? When someone does that, the story no longer feels like it's mine; yeah, Creative Commons and this technically being a Wiki and all that, but still...
Does anyone else feel like this? Or am I just clingy over stories that no longer belong to me the second I post them here? How could I learn to accept even the changes that I think make my stories worse, and even begin to appreciate them like I know I should? Is it against the rules to revert them?
Sorry for ranting again...
To be specific, the one thing about your story that's clice is the first letter of reach paragraph. That's what I'm referring to at the moment. If that weren't a thing in your story, you'd have a better chance of it staying posted,
So if I hadn't mentioned it, most likely no one would have noticed, and no one would care. But because I did, I now have no way to keep the story from being deleted without having to make changes to it that I don't want to make. Great.
You wanted praise.
Well, who doesn't? I do consider myself a better writer than half of the people on this site (definitely nowhere near as good as you, though), but evidently that's not true... but shitting on what I wrote exactly for the reasons I wrote it is absurdly annoying. Like I said, people have different tastes and opinions. Yours aren't wrong, but neither are mine... I'm happy with the story, so why should I change it to be more to your liking just because you're a better writer than me?