Despite the fact that the original of the 2008th was never published on this site, I think many have heard about this story. What do you think about it?
Despite the fact that the original of the 2008th was never published on this site, I think many have heard about this story. What do you think about it?
ArmadillooftheAges wrote:
Maybe you're right. What a pity. I feel like there's not much more I can add than what's already been said. I think it's safe to say Creepypasta as we know it is pretty much dying out.
I see it as an art form that is evolving.
Some people say that Hollywood movies are dying and that they are all reboots, usually worse than the original. Yes, Hollywood has turned out quickly forgotten drivel in the last ten years. Yet, I can think of several really imaginative films that have come out. Two of my favorites were obscure little indie films made on tiny budgets.
The days of rebooting Jeff The Killer or spouting some meaningless ritual and getting the Creepypasta audience to buy it are over. It will flop, just as badly as the recent Ghostbusters reboot. To succeed in today's crowded creepypasta marketplace, you need to constantly improve.
Of course, what is a success in Creepypasta? It's not like I do this for money. It is an art form, a hobby. To me, a successful pasta is where it is the best story I can do at that time. If each story is a little better than the last, I am succeeding.
Describing it as an art form that's evolving, to me, is looking at it in a more positive way. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but for old folks like Ned, Skelly, and myself, it kind of kills what we originally loved about them. If you ask me, Creepypasta moving from user-generated text stories on /x/ in the mid-to-late 2000s to Hollywood movies with million-dollar budgets is not really "evolving"; it's more like falling into the hands of corporate executives who want to make a quick buck. So I guess "popularity" would be a better word than evolving.
I suppose there exists an argument that, yeah, it's evolving because nowadays most pastas aren't so shoddily-written and tend to have more developed plots and characters. I guess if you want to consider that evolving then that's fine, but when I read Pastas back in the day, it wasn't so much to read an intricate piece of horror literature or like something I'd read in an actual novel. It was to read something cheap, short, and crude but really fun. And also, "Creepypasta marketplace" lol. Sounds more and more like an industry everyday.
I've said this numerous times already, but Creepypasta, in my opinion, was always just about having fun by scaring yourself. No standards or anything like that.
Side note: To be completely honest, I enjoy movies, but I'm not a voracious movie-watcher, at least not to the extent of some people. I'm more of a literature and show and gaming fan. And I've read and heard several arguments about how people feel that independent works are far more creative and interesting than works being produced by big-name studios. We have to take into consideration the fact that a lot of work produced by major companies is often at the mercy of executive meddling and public relations while independent works tend to be free and more about the creation and making something awesome than hoping it will sell.
ArmadillooftheAges wrote:
[...] but for old folks like Ned, Skelly, and myself, it kind of kills what we originally loved about them.
Don't get me wrong, I still love reading newer pastas, but I do miss that "vibe" of older 4chan-influenced pastas that emphasized anonymity and actually read like honest-to-god urban legends. In my mind, that's what set creepypasta apart from general horror fiction - well, that and the amateurish quality often on display.
ArmadillooftheAges wrote:
[...] but for old folks like Ned, Skelly, and myself, it kind of kills what we originally loved about them.
My bad. I could've sworn you said you weren't a fan of the newer standards and all that stuff. Yeah, Those qualities are what made the old Pastas so good.
Since this is getting off topic, I've started a new thread for the debate.
I'm going to end my say on the Jeff topic by saying I really don't see how making him a supernatural character would work without removing the popular bullied-kid-turns-psycho mythology. Trying to put them both together (supernatural/bullied kid) would just make it look like a parody of Carrie.
ArmadillooftheAges wrote:
ArmadillooftheAges wrote:
[...] but for old folks like Ned, Skelly, and myself, it kind of kills what we originally loved about them.
My bad. I could've sworn you said you weren't a fan of the newer standards and all that stuff. Yeah, Those qualities are what made the old Pastas so good.
I believe all I said was that this wiki has been "creepypasta" in name only for a very long time. In fact, I've thought that since around 2013, before the current standards were even solidified. An older admin, Mr.Zalgopasta, once suggested that we rename this place to "Horror Writing Wiki" or something along those lines, and to this day I agree with him. Not about literally changing the name (that'd be stupid), but with the general sentiment behind the statement.
No longer is this site a repository for actual creepypasta; those died at the beginning of the decade, anyway, and we have Historical Archive for those. Now, this wiki is largely a place for amateur horror writers to practice their craft. Whether this is a good or bad change depends on what you're looking for in this wiki, but I'd say it was kind of an inevitable change.
Are you talking about the original Sesusser YouTube video from years ago, back when YouTube was new? Because if you are, it really isn't anything special
Yeah. I'm talking about it.
Hi! I love Jeff the killer! Did you know Jeff is in love with BEN Drowned?
KittyAbbott wrote: Hi! I love Jeff the killer! Did you know Jeff is in love with BEN Drowned?
Please try and refrain from commenting on year-old threads in the future. If you want to talk about Jeff, start a new thread.
And no, canonically, I don't think Jeff is in love with Ben. That sounds a lot more than a fan creation to me.
And no, canonically, I don't think Jeff is in love with Ben. That sounds a lot more than a fan creation to me.
I hate being an accomplice in replying to outdated threads but what the heck...
That is correct. BEN isn't even mentioned in any of the canonical (the original, the popular, or the remake) versions of Jeff the Killer.
This and other Creepypasta Wikis get plagued with shippers, and people who listen to anything that is told to them without even the slightest bit of research. A lot of people pop up presenting their ships, theories, and head-cannons as fact.