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  • Fatal Disease
    Fatal Disease closed this thread because:
    And now, the end is near, and so I face... the final curtain ~
    21:57, March 9, 2014

    I am here today to request the demotion of the bureaucrat Lil' Miss Rarity, formerly known as Prince(ss) Platinum.

    Over the past months she has neglected to seek community support when adding new policies to chat. Although it is to be stated that in the last month she has made threads and sought community support and input for everything they have tried to do except one thing. While she is beginning to improve it is too little too late.

    On more than one occasion she has added to the turmoil in chat causing several users to stress out and has vehemently impeded our freedom of speech by restricting several harsh words such as "faggot" and "cunt", such actions are not to be tolerated from someone who is supposed to be the go to person for site issues such as vandalism and tech questions.

    Recently she has removed the chat feature from our wiki due to the recent amounts of drama taking place, while she did this in good faith she did not consult the community and therefore has performed an act worth demotion. This sites chat is vital to contributions as it is a friendly and welcome place for all users new and old to get together and discuss the rampant issues with the site such as policy depreciation and quality control. Without chat none of these things could be discussed and dealt with and therefore the sites progress was hindered drastically.

    The fact that all of these issues are related to our crucial chat is enough to warrant a demotion of this bureaucrat.

    There are a few other claims that I will address as soon as images or evidence is brought forth in order to back them up.

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    • Support Support - As Said in the other thread, There are a few reasons i feel Maria should be removed from power

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    • Prince Finneow wrote: Support Support - As Said in the other thread, There are a few reasons i feel Maria should be removed from power

      I'd like to know them if it would be alright with you.

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    • Support Support - I stated my reasons in chat, as well as in the other thread. I think you are a good person but a bad bcrat. 

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    • Lil' Miss Rarity wrote:

      Prince Finneow wrote: Support Support - As Said in the other thread, There are a few reasons i feel Maria should be removed from power

      I'd like to know them if it would be alright with you.

      Well, You have cause many the "Shitstorm" in chat, as they are called. One Example may be when you gave one user permanent chat moderator rights without consulting anyone.

      However, After thinking about it, you have done quite a lot for the wiki, including the Licensing stuff and the chatbot.

      So. I am Changing my vote to Neutral Neutral -

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    • ChaoZStrider wrote: Support Support - I stated my reasons in chat, as well as in the other thread. I think you are a good person but a bad bcrat. 

      Can you explain how though?

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    • Neutral Neutral - after looking over the evidence and your counter arguments, Maria. I'm not so sure anymore. However if most of these accusations are true then I'm changing my vote to Support Support -

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    • I have quite a long and complicated History of sorts, With maria. My opinion of her ranges from time to time but honestly, shes pretty cool. she has a similar since of humor As I do, and such. But. She has never really.. been a modest power holder, She tried to perma ban me at one time for less than minor socking, has instated rules and mods without asking anyone else about it, has fired mods (such as zyranne) For disagreeing about adding a rule again cunt, and recently, closed the chat down for little reason. Despite all this my opinion of her slightly Mixed. I like her as a person, and i think she has some sense (Only SOME) About being a administrator/bcrat but she has messed up. A LOT. I wanted to go in and just vote Neutral but the more i considered it, the more i've realized that honestly shes kind of.. bad at her job. So, after consideration. I must say that I. Support

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      upon further consideration, and hearing maria explain herself some more. i was even further conflicted on the matter. So as i've thought about it, i've come to change my mind completely, and Oppose Oppose - As after hearing her address everything bad i had to say. I must simply accept that, She doesn't deserve a demotion, Now. She does need something however. a lecture, a mandation I do not know but I do know that while she has improved her social behavior towards the userbase in the chat, its still not perfect.

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    • Support Support - oh ho yes please

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    • Neutral Neutral -

      There have been some good times, and some bad times.

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    • Oppose Oppose - You're a good crat as it is; a leader in charge. A lot of these people really don't know what they're talking about. Sure there are some stuff that I haven't agreed on your decision making, but you're the only person that does the bots and the wikia.js around here. Making users happy about what they see on the site.

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    • UrotsukI wrote: I have quite a long and complicated History of sorts, With maria. My opinion of her ranges from time to time but honestly, shes pretty cool. she has a similar since of humor As I do, and such. But. She has never really.. been a modest power holder, She tried to perma ban me at one time for less than minor socking, has instated rules and mods without asking anyone else about it, has fired mods (such as zyranne) For disagreeing about adding a rule again cunt, and recently, closed the chat down for little reason. Despite all this my opinion of her slightly Mixed. I like her as a person, and i think she has some sense (Only SOME) About being a administrator/bcrat but she has messed up. A LOT. I wanted to go in and just vote Neutral but the more i considered it, the more i've realized that honestly shes kind of.. bad at her job. So, after consideration. I must say that I. Support Support -

      I have added mods and rules without asking and I am sorry about that. I did not demote Zyranne because she disagreed with the rule I demoted her because of the drama she was causing because of it. I also asked Why about demoting her and he agreed that it'd be the best.

      The time I banned you for socking was a misunderstanding.

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    • Mr.stache65 wrote: Neutral Neutral - after looking over the evidence and your counter arguments, Maria. I'm not so sure anymore. However if most of these accusations are true then I'm changing my vote to Support Support -

      These accusations are far from truthful in anyway.

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    • Oppose Oppose - Sure, Ben breaks the rules in chat, and that's where most of this is coming from. But there is little to no denying the role he has played in this wiki's success, that's the only thing that really matters when it comes down to it. Ben cares for the wiki, not the chat itself.

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    • Neutral Neutral - After PMing with you and hearing your reasoning, I understand your descions a bit more, but in my honest opinion I believe you should stick to coding the site, which if I am correct, is the reason you are Bcrat in the first place. Leave other site matters to the other Bcrats. OR when deciding to add a rule, make a proper proposal post to get the opinions of the community organized, as many are not in chat during such discussions. If you make these changes in your behavior, then I will Oppose Oppose - your demotion.

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    • The Last Paladin wrote: Oppose Oppose - Sure, Ben breaks the rules in chat, and that's where most of this is coming from. But there is little to no denying the role he has played in this wiki's success, that's the only thing that really matters when it comes down to it. Ben cares for the wiki, not the chat itself.

      I am trying to stop the rule breaking if people haven't noticed.

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    • Oppose Oppose - This place will go to shit without Ben. Yeah, we've had disagreements, and he's pissed me off, but fuck knows we need him. Finn, you've started your fair share of shitstorms. All of us have. So what if Ben can be an ass. Again, all of us can. The issues with the "not consulting the community", was usually a case of that group of users not being there when the decision was decided upon. Honestly, people are just out for blood, and find Ben to be the perfect scapegoat. They'll regret this shit when he washes his hands of the site and we go to hell faster than a cat with its tail on fire.

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    • GraydonL wrote: Neutral Neutral - After PMing with you and hearing your reasoning, I understand your descions a bit more, but in my honest opinion I believe you should stick to coding the site, which if I am correct, is the reason you are Bcrat in the first place. Leave other site matters to the other Bcrats. OR when deciding to add a rule, make a proper proposal post to get the opinions of the community organized, as many are not in chat during such discussions. If you make these changes in your behavior, then I will Oppose Oppose - your demotion.

      If you'd care to look in the forums I have been seeking community feedback and approval for everything.

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    • Lil' Miss Rarity wrote:

      The Last Paladin wrote: Oppose Oppose - Sure, Ben breaks the rules in chat, and that's where most of this is coming from. But there is little to no denying the role he has played in this wiki's success, that's the only thing that really matters when it comes down to it. Ben cares for the wiki, not the chat itself.

      I am trying to stop the rule breaking if people haven't noticed.

      Gives me more the reason to oppose. I certainly did not since, you broke them every now and then, and people freaked the fuck out over it.

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    • Support Support - So this is how we're going to play it? By deleting a thread with evidence and reposting a parody with counter arguments? It doesn't matter if you're efforts were in "good faith" They never worked and caused shit storms that have given us the image of being elitist assholes throughout the rest of the medium. Let's just nail this into your head real quick. This site is a community. You can't do things by just consulting a few members of the chat and not even the founder of the wiki. Hacking, threatening and deletion of one of the most famous pastas on the site without consent. I'm sorry, but I just felt the need to do this. Multiple community members have agreed. As plank pointed out in the chat, it's less hacking than vandalism, but still an offense. This shit storm has been accumulating for months now and this is what happens when you sit on a mountain of shit and keep shiting on it like nothing is happening. The mountains going to tip over and get everybody not involved with the shit, involved.

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    • Oppose Oppose -  - You may of done some things bad, but overall you're really nice and good at this soo ye

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    • The Damn Batman wrote: Support Support - So this is how we're going to play it? By deleting a thread with evidence and reposting a parody with counter arguments? It doesn't matter if you're efforts were in "good faith" They never worked and caused shit storms that have given us the image of being elitist assholes throughout the rest of the medium. Let's just nail this into your head real quick. This site is a community. You can't do things by just consulting a few members of the chat and not even the founder of the wiki. Hacking, threatening and deletion of one of the most famous pastas on the site without consent. I'm sorry, but I just felt the need to do this. Multiple community members have agreed. As plank pointed out in the chat, it's less hacking than vandalism, but still an offense. This shit storm has been accumulating for months now and this is what happens when you sit on a mountain of shit and keep shiting on it like nothing is happening. The mountains going to tip over and get everybody not involved with the shit, involved.

      I didn't delete the thread.

      Second you assume I do everything without asking others first.

      Third I don't need to consult the founder of the wiki unless I want his opinion as a bureaucrat which, make no mistakes, I do but sadly he isn't around as much as he used to.

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    • Oppose Oppose - this wiki would be fucked without ben plain and fucking simple the end

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    • Sorry if this is a bit harsh, but if you just consulted us more instead of rushing in, I wouldn't have made that thread. Trying to stop drama by causing more drama isn't the answer. This site has been heading down hill for a while now. Hopefully, if this doesn't get passed, you learn to deal with the community better. Because this wasn't just me who supported doing this. I asked multiple people what they thought of your actions and the general consensus was that you needed to understand what you are doing. Some users may just be in the middle, but until then this is going to be a support for me.

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    • The Damn Batman wrote: Sorry if this is a bit harsh, but if you just consulted us more instead of rushing in, I wouldn't have made that thread. Trying to stop drama by causing more drama isn't the answer. This site has been heading down hill for a while now. Hopefully, if this doesn't get passed, you learn to deal with the community better. Because this wasn't just me who supported doing this. I asked multiple people what they thought of your actions and the general consensus was that you needed to understand what you are doing. Some users may just be in the middle, but until then this is going to be a support for me.

      I'd like to put on record that you made a demotion thread that was full of blatant lies. I merely wanted to go out with an honest thread so I made my own.

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    • Lil' Miss Rarity wrote:

      The Damn Batman wrote: Support Support - So this is how we're going to play it? By deleting a thread with evidence and reposting a parody with counter arguments? It doesn't matter if you're efforts were in "good faith" They never worked and caused shit storms that have given us the image of being elitist assholes throughout the rest of the medium. Let's just nail this into your head real quick. This site is a community. You can't do things by just consulting a few members of the chat and not even the founder of the wiki. Hacking, threatening and deletion of one of the most famous pastas on the site without consent. I'm sorry, but I just felt the need to do this. Multiple community members have agreed. As plank pointed out in the chat, it's less hacking than vandalism, but still an offense. This shit storm has been accumulating for months now and this is what happens when you sit on a mountain of shit and keep shiting on it like nothing is happening. The mountains going to tip over and get everybody not involved with the shit, involved.

      I didn't delete the thread.

      Second you assume I do everything without asking others first.

      Third I don't need to consult the founder of the wiki unless I want his opinion as a bureaucrat which, make no mistakes, I do but sadly he isn't around as much as he used to.

      I didn't assume it was you. Finn closed the thread, sorry if it seems like I meant you. But it's still just werid for us to be voting for a demotion on a thread that gives counter examples as to why not to delete it. 

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    • i think that maybe we should add the supports and opposes from the other thread. if you dont mind me saying

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    • Lil' Miss Rarity wrote:

      The Damn Batman wrote: Sorry if this is a bit harsh, but if you just consulted us more instead of rushing in, I wouldn't have made that thread. Trying to stop drama by causing more drama isn't the answer. This site has been heading down hill for a while now. Hopefully, if this doesn't get passed, you learn to deal with the community better. Because this wasn't just me who supported doing this. I asked multiple people what they thought of your actions and the general consensus was that you needed to understand what you are doing. Some users may just be in the middle, but until then this is going to be a support for me.

      I'd like to put on record that you made a demotion thread that was full of blatant lies. I merely wanted to go out with an honest thread so I made my own.

      The things I put on my thread were from trusted members of the community and as I saw it as a fellow member of the chat. You can put it any way you want but in the end you've caused shit storms that led to users being banned and the wiki seem like assholes.

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    • Superplankofdeath wrote:
      i think that maybe we should add the supports and opposes from the other thread. if you dont mind me saying

      Exactly, the other votes shouldn't be discounted because of a new thread. 

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    • The Damn Batman wrote:

      Lil' Miss Rarity wrote:

      The Damn Batman wrote: Sorry if this is a bit harsh, but if you just consulted us more instead of rushing in, I wouldn't have made that thread. Trying to stop drama by causing more drama isn't the answer. This site has been heading down hill for a while now. Hopefully, if this doesn't get passed, you learn to deal with the community better. Because this wasn't just me who supported doing this. I asked multiple people what they thought of your actions and the general consensus was that you needed to understand what you are doing. Some users may just be in the middle, but until then this is going to be a support for me.

      I'd like to put on record that you made a demotion thread that was full of blatant lies. I merely wanted to go out with an honest thread so I made my own.

      The things I put on my thread were from trusted members of the community and as I saw it as a fellow member of the chat. You can put it any way you want but in the end you've caused shit storms that led to users being banned and the wiki seem like assholes.

      I've done just about as much as any user has to reinforce that view across the Wikia community, maybe even less so seeing as I go out of my way to help other communities always leaving behind my "calling card" saying I am from Creepypasta wiki.

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    • The Damn Batman wrote:

      Superplankofdeath wrote:
      i think that maybe we should add the supports and opposes from the other thread. if you dont mind me saying

      Exactly, the other votes shouldn't be discounted because of a new thread. 

      Then they are free to revote here.

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    • Lil' Miss Rarity wrote:

      ChaoZStrider wrote: Support Support - I stated my reasons in chat, as well as in the other thread. I think you are a good person but a bad bcrat. 

      Can you explain how though?

      You are a good person, you need to consult the community more, you need to stop causing as many shit storms in chat, you shouldn't add rules or policies without consulting the community which I know you can do, as you are doing it now. The demotion of Zy should have been done through a thread not just through asking Reading if he thought it was okay as well. 

      You have stated in the past, as has Agner, that you think people are just numbers which is something a bcrat shouldn't think. Every user on this wiki has a face, has emotions, and so on. What makes us a community is that we have many ways we can talk things out without arguing or coming of as elitiest like the dA and other places with creepypastas think we are. We are one of the few places that offer deletion appeal if we delete a user's story. Communication and community share a root word, which is something a lot of us need to work on, you included.

      I would like to see you improve on your communication skills, Maria. You would be a better bcrat if you could do that. 

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    • ChaoZStrider wrote:

      Lil' Miss Rarity wrote:

      ChaoZStrider wrote: Support Support - I stated my reasons in chat, as well as in the other thread. I think you are a good person but a bad bcrat. 

      Can you explain how though?

      You are a good person, you need to consult the community more, you need to stop causing as many shit storms in chat, you shouldn't add rules or policies without consulting the community which I know you can do, as you are doing it now. The demotion of Zy should have been done through a thread not just through asking Reading if he thought it was okay as well. 

      You have stated in the past, as has Agner, that you think people are just numbers which is something a bcrat shouldn't think. Every user on this wiki has a face, has emotions, and so on. What makes us a community is that we have many ways we can talk things out without arguing or coming of as elitiest like the dA and other places with creepypastas think we are. We are one of the few places that offer deletion appeal if we delete a user's story. Communication and community share a root word, which is something a lot of us need to work on, you included.

      I would like to see you improve on your communication skills, Maria. You would be a better bcrat if you could do that. 

      People are just numbers is a philosophical view which I am entitled to just as much as others are entitled to their religious views.

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    • Neutral Neutral - As long as this doesn't make the wiki implode.

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    • Eh, you can stop the voting now. Some things have made me realize there isn't a point in fighting for a position I no longer really want, I wish luck to everyone who helps the main site. Adios.

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