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Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! WhyAmIReadingThis (talk) 23:58, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

PLEASE BE AWARE:

You have been given an automatic 1 day block from editing because you have not updated the {{#NewWindowLink:Article Listing}} with your new story/stories. This has become a MAJOR problem, and seeing as ALL THE RULES AND REGULATIONS are posted to your talk page as soon as you edit a page (AND I KNOW YOU GET NOTIFICATION OF THIS), there is no logical excuse not to have updated it.

See {{#NewWindowLink:User blog:ClericofMadness/Words Cannot Express My Frustration|this rules post}} and {{#NewWindowLink:User blog:AlixeTiir/AlixeTiir's Guide to Updating The Article Listing and shit.|these}} two {{#NewWindowLink:User blog:Sloshedtrain/How to Update the Article Listing|tutorials}} for more information.

Sloshedtrainhttp://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/sloshedtrain/a-train-small.gif 21:34, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

URGENT

We will double your block time every time you post a page(s) and not update the {{#NewWindowLink:Article Listing}}. We warned you once and we shouldn't warn you again.

See {{#NewWindowLink:User blog:ClericofMadness/Words Cannot Express My Frustration|this rules post}} and {{#NewWindowLink:User blog:AlixeTiir/AlixeTiir's Guide to Updating The Article Listing and shit.|these}} two {{#NewWindowLink:User blog:Sloshedtrain/How to Update the Article Listing|tutorials}} for more information.

Sloshedtrainhttp://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/sloshedtrain/a-train-small.gif 21:45, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded story

Please don't re-upload your deleted story. It is against the rules. If you feel your story is well-written or meets the Quality Standards criteria, make a case on deletion appeal or post it into our Writer's Workshop for comprehensive user review. If you re-upload a deleted pasta again, you will receive a 1-day suspension from editing. A picture is worth a thousand words, but I'd rather write a thousand-word story. (talk) 16:58, December 11, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Alternate Endings

It should be alright as long as both of your endings make sense to the story and are completed. You should seperate the Alternate Ending with a heading as well to make it easier to read. A picture is worth a thousand words, but I'd rather write a thousand-word story. (talk) 18:22, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

Re: deleted

It reminded me too much of WHO WAS PHONE? and it wasn't particularly effective (micropastas kind of have to be extremely well-written or not written at all).

If you want more in-depth feedback you can repost it in the Writer's Workshop, as I am terrible at giving critiques.

LOLSKELETONS (talk) 15:39, December 16, 2014 (UTC)

RE:YOLO

Hi. I just wanted to thank you for the message you left on my talk page, it was really nice. You're a cool guy. Also, the "die, evil scum!" thing is something I forgot to remove. It's been there for a while now, but yeah, it's just to be silly. Bye. 21:00, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

Re:

Sorry 'bout that. I didn't even realize you were the author. (Of course that is fine, I reverted my edits.) Unfortunately, I've been dealing with some users spamming the "Places", "Reality", and "Mental Illness" categories, so I've been a bit more reactive to people adding categories than I should be. Once more, sorry. Have a good one. EmpyrealInvective (talk) 21:10, December 21, 2014 (UTC)

To make it up to you, here's a helpful template! Instead of copy/pasting urls onto your user page, you can use this template to make it look cleaner/easier to read. [[Story Title Here]] Best of luck. EmpyrealInvective (talk) 04:10, December 30, 2014 (UTC)

Looks like this is it...See ya bud

I've been banned indefinitely from chat...that means I can't come back  :( I wish I could have

spoke to your more and became your friend, but dickferd has blocked me from the chat...

Have a good life...

Your Ban

I am a chat moderator, not an administrator. Since it was an admin who banned you, I do not have the authority to overturn that decision. User:WhyAmIReadingThis is the person who banned you, so I'd post your appeal on his talk page if I were you. Likferd (talk) 18:50, December 31, 2014 (UTC)

We migrated

People from CPWC are now using the chat from this wiki and this wiki (this one has less rules and is more of a politically incorrect place).

Just telling you in case you didn't know.

He is a horse. He is fantastic. He is The Fantastic Mister Horse. (talk) 19:32, January 8, 2015 (UTC)

Story..

I didn't confuse it for spam, it was deleted as it really lacked a creepiness factor. Telling a good two sentence story is difficult, due to the limitations in description and tension building. This is one of the reasons why there aren't too many micro pastas on this site as only great ones make the cut. EmpyrealInvective (talk) 23:59, January 10, 2015 (UTC)

Deleted (Again)

A piece of advice, the writer's workshop is for receiving feedback. Don't post your story there and then upload it here moments later without waiting for a review. (There's no point in that.) Additionally your story had grammatical issues. (it's=it is, its=possession.) EmpyrealInvective (talk) 00:13, January 11, 2015 (UTC)

Re:

I've added the credit to you at the bottom. In the future, you can just put by-user at the bottom of your pasta and you will be credited automatically.

Anyway, I'm glad it got posted on the main site and I wish you the best of luck in continuing to write. Regards, Underscorre - Talk to Me 08:09, January 18, 2015 (UTC)

RE: RE: We migrated

Just going to tell you that the people migrated again. Spinpasta Wiki 2.0 is not used anymore and now, everyone is here.

Also, I quit this network. I'm not editing here, in the wiki I just linked above and the Trollpasta Wiki anymore and neither I am joining the chats for personal reasons.

Sorry.

He is a horse. He is fantastic. He is The Fantastic Mister Horse. (talk) 21:38, January 18, 2015 (UTC)

Please!

No pressure or anything, but you need to seriously make more micropastas/creepypastas because I love them. I thoroughly enjoyed reading all of yours. Your micropastas or two-sentence horror story style pastas are so GOOD! PLEASE MAKE MORE! Thank you :)

Natalo (talk) 10:23, January 26, 2015 (UTC)

Making Headers

In response to your question, to make a header simply do this: ==Story Title==. That simple. You can also view the title of this post in editor mode. Best of luck. EmpyrealInvective (talk) 00:08, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

Ok, but I will say that having a compilation would give you a little more leeway in terms of overall quality (as you know, micro pastas are judged fairly stringently), which you can update with new stories as they come to you. However it's your choice. EmpyrealInvective (talk) 01:09, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

Call Me Crazy

It came off more like a joke/punchline than a micro pasta. It really didn't have that impact that micro pastas generally have of leaving more to the imagination/reader's inference than other stories. For example, one short reddit micro pasta (more or less): "I swear while living in this house, I've closed more doors than opened."

As for Grave Robbers, I didn't find any issues with it. EmpyrealInvective (talk) 04:00, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Thank you

I have added the {{deletenow}} tag on your pasta.

I think this is the mature way to go about it and I respect you for that. It is hard 'pulling the plug' on your own stories, but I think this is definitely the right decision. I hope to see more of your stories in the future. Writing micropastas is a craft of its own and I think you are one of the better craftsmen on the wiki.

I know I will sound desperate for asking, but I have written a short story of my own. If you were to give me a review, it would really mean a lot. The story is Mother's Love.

Cheers,
MrDupin (talk) 17:46, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for leaving a review on my story, I appreciate it. If you post another pasta, please let me know. MrDupin (talk) 19:43, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Grave Robbers

I see that it's been deleted, but I did see the explanation last night. Sorry for not responding at the time (was tired at that point). I thought about it later and decided it was actually pretty creepy. My condolences on the deletion.

After reading the other comments and having some time to think on the micro pasta, I noticed a number of flaws that I looked over the first time. (How did the robber know to place the body in your house? How did they rig it so it is standing and how did they manage that without waking the protagonist?) Once I got your request to delete it, I did. Then you re-posted it after changing "body snatching" to "grave robbing", which really doesn't make much sense as grave robbing is typically robbing the dead and not the bodies themselves and doesn't seem like it would really sway the overall quality of the story. EmpyrealInvective (talk) 23:18, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Grave Robbers

It is your story, your decision. The fact that you put it down in the first place shows that you care about the quality of your work. For me, it doesn't matter if it is posted or not; I think you have gained valuable experience either way.

Hope to see more from you,
MrDupin (talk) 23:21, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

Grave Robbers

I was writing the response when you decided to jump the gun and repost your story. (As you have a tendency to be impatient and jump the gun as seen on your WW post about "Call me Crazy") I figured the fact that you had been warned about re-posting stories in the past and the fact that I changed the deletion reason to quality standards might have helped you decide to wait a few minutes and allow me to write out my response to you, but you reuploaded it despite having been warned. I expected you to use a bit of common sense and wait for my response, which was posted a few minutes after your message on my talk page.

As I already stated the issues I found with your micro pasta and the fact that you yourself asked for it to be deleted (and then reuploaded it after changing two words, which resolved none of the issues brought up by commenters.) speak for itself in how it wasn't up to quality standards. A micro pasta should be concise and set up the plot and climax without leaving a number of plot holes that have to be explained in ammendums.

As for our 'power trips' impeding creativity, I'm afraid your acting a bit too much like the victim here. As a person, I think I should be afforded the ability to make mistakes when it comes to split-second judging of stories. (We get thirty or so a day that need to be read and QC'd.) I decided to let your story pass as initially it had an interesting premise, but on further reflection, the issues became self-evident. Our judgement isn't always perfect when paired with the fact that we are often multi-tasking. We have the deletion appeal for that very reason. (As stated in the warning against reuploading stories.)

Finally bans cannot be stripped from records and as for expecting an apology from LOLSKELETONS, I sincerely doubt he is going to apologize to you for banning you when you broke the site rules. EmpyrealInvective (talk) 00:23, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

1: You do realize that I am not on this site 24/7? I try to respond in a timely manner, but you have to realize I have work and other RL responsibilities. (For example, if I posted this message during a weekday, I wouldn't expect an instantaneous response from you.)
2: You have the message right there on your talk page, it's hard to miss. You re-posted anyway, disregarding the rules. If that's not using common sense, I don't know what is.
3: As I KEEP telling you, you re-posted BEFORE I could give the reasons. Don't try to blame me for your ban due to refusal to be patient and follow rules. While writing the response, I was QC-ing stories and working on deletion appeal (as I am doing now).
4 How is any of this power abuse? If you haven't noticed, we are doing QC on recently posted stories and stories that are years old and we are enforcing the rules set about on this wiki. We aren't going to be able to respond to every message the minute we receive it. You broke one of them despite having been warned, hence the ban. If you consider that power abuse, then you might need to rethink a few things.
5: We issue bans to keep the site running effectively and we warn before doing so. (as we did on your page.) If a user refuses to follow the rules set and the warnings given, they will be banned. Simple as that. No need to be melodramatic about a one day ban. Now as I can see this argument going around and around in circles, I'm going to cut it off right here with a simple summation. You were given a one day ban for violating the rules and re-uploading a story. Ignorance of the rules does not make you exempt. There really isn't anything else to discuss. EmpyrealInvective (talk) 01:02, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
Fun fact: this job is not my profession. I am basically volunteering my free time to help new authors out. I respond in the same manner that users message me as mentioned on my header "Also note, keep messages civil. If you leave an acerbic message expect me to respond in kind." (once again patience and forward-thinking aren't necessarily your strong suits.) Your initial message was combative and accused me of power abuse. I also did admit to making a mistake in the initial message "Our judgement isn't always perfect..." (Are you bothering to even read these message or are you just being recalcitrant for no reason and arguing for the sake of arguing?)
Alright then, if you intend to leave the site that's fine. I'm just going to suggest one thing, take your stories to a site with no 'quality standards' because your skin is way too thin to deal with any type of criticism. Best of luck in your future endeavors, I hope one day you'll be able to realize the difference between some 'attacking' your 'artistic integrity' and handing out helpful criticism. EmpyrealInvective (talk) 01:32, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
And once again, blaming me for your presumptions and impatience. (This pointless argument is really going places now. Let's really hammer home the redundancy.)
How do you think I would receive a message talking about "Admins (Plural) and their power trips"? Did you expect me to commiserate with you and demand Skel make a formal apology? (If so, how arrogant. Expecting a person to apologize for banning you for violating the rules.) At this point you're wasting both my time and yours. I'm done arguing and re-hashing stupidity. Keep throwing this temper-tantrum if you want, but I'm not responding anymore. I've made my point and you've done the same. To keep butting heads just makes us both look pathetic. (And for being someone who's so concerned about the 'weight of your words' and your 'integrity' you seem to have no qualms about throwing hissy-fits and making yourself look petulant.)
TL:DR there is nothing to discuss here. Bans can't be undone and apologies won't be made for clear violations of site rules. Move on or move away. At this point either is fine by me. EmpyrealInvective (talk) 04:18, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Grave Robbers

Look, I know this is none of my business, but I couldn't help but start reading your conversations with Empy, and I want to give my opinion.

You broke the rules. You uploaded your pasta TWICE after getting warned twice. Why are you still arguing your point? You broke the rules. Your pasta will not be getting reuploaded by an Admin. Why is that so hard for you to understand? To quote LOLSKELETONS:

Oh my god, you're STILL going on about this?
You were banned because you broke the rules. Why is that so hard for you to swallow? I didn't ignore any of your points either, you just didn't make any good points. You were overreacting. You are still overreacting.
I repeat:
It was just a one day ban.
You earned it fair and square.
The ban is now over.
Your reputation is not tarnished because of the ban.
Get over it.

TheGamingSponge 04:32, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Your Message

Different admins may have different standards and definitions of a quality pasta. What I think passes the standards, Likferd may not agree and vice versa. 

I'm sorry to see that you had so much of your work removed; as a writer who also takes pride in what I do, I'm not a stranger to the feeling of having your hard work taken down. It happens, and to be honest I am also somewhat surprised that Bitter suddenly took down most of your work with only a generic reason given.

If you could provide me with the titles of your deleted stories, I can take a look at them and probably offer an explanation to why they were deleted (particularly if they're shorter stories or micros) and give copies if you don't have any saved. Also, keep in mind that this site is not the only one you can go to display your writing; there's also deviantArt, FictionPress, Wattpad, Quotev and so on. A picture is worth a thousand words, but I'd rather write a thousand-word story. (talk) 19:33, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, you had the names of them on your page. Never mind. ^^ So here's what I could see...
I Slit My Own Throat Once: Well, this was only one sentence, and although it was sort of chilling to read, it just didn't make much sense. You can't make much of a story with only a single sentence. The fact that the title alone is literally a big portion of the story doesn't really help it.
My Grotesque Nightmare: This was only two sentences, and unfortunately, I find it making even less sense than the previous one. The title alone is pretty cliched-sounding, and as for what happens in the "story" is very unclear. Most people would have wrinkles on their face by the time they were seventy years old anyway, so I don't see what's supposed to be scary here.
A Buffering Movie: This one is better than the first two, but I still think it doesn't quite meet the standards. Just a "spine-chilling" scream as the scare factor is pretty weak, and although it's pulled off in a rather clever way, that doesn't make the story hold up. Also, you really should try to be more creative with the titles you're using; making direct lines of the story as a title is pretty ineffective.
A Stupid Chain Letter: This one suffers from poor writing. Directly addressing the audience severely weakens a pasta's potential to be frightening in most cases- admitting that you know the story is cliche doesn't make it more engaging or original. It's more saying "Yeah, I know this isn't my best work, but just keep reading anyway."
The letter alone is the nail in the coffin. I'm sorry, but something like that popping out of nowhere with no build-up or provocation is not scary or startling; it's weak and lazy writing. Things like that either need to be a lot more subtle or have a lot more build-up to scare the audience at all.
Also, this story reads much more like someone giving a monologue than someone telling a story. It's a bit of a personal pet peeve of mine, I'll admit, but this kind of writing tone makes it hard to take the story seriously.
Saying "This isn't fiction, it really happened!" is yet another overdone trope. You don't tell your readers that even if it is completely true. Let us read it and decide for ourselves if it could be real or not.
The Wake-Up Game: This one's a bit better because it doesn't have the "monologue"-type tone, but it's really unclear what the scare here is supposed to be. If it wasn't his brother, then who or what on Earth was it? This story ends way too quickly and I'm leaving it feeling confused instead of scared.
Well, hopefully this shed a bit of light for you. A picture is worth a thousand words, but I'd rather write a thousand-word story. (talk) 20:02, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

Pasta Deletions

These pastas were deleted because they didn't meet the quality standards, plain and simple. Micropastas make decent paragraph clinchers, but they usually lack substance and get deleted within a few days of being uploaded. A few slip through the cracks and aren't discovered until much later on. What prompted these deletions were the comparisons I made between Grave Robbers, the pasta whose deletion you were contesting, and those pastas of yours on the site at the time. I found no significant difference in quality; your other micropastas, like Grave Robbers, felt rushed and almost hackneyed. I had no part in the discussion between you and Empy; I don't see how wiki "drama" as you call it could have influenced my decision. If that were really the case I would have deleted all seven, but I spared two because they were at least decent. Likferd (talk) 20:17, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

Have you any idea how often we hear this excuse? It doesn't matter how many people praised your writing. Dubiousdugong was once a revered author here, but we eventually realized he was a plagiarizing hack who couldn't produce decent original content if his life depended on it. Should we have spared those pastas because people liked them? Then why should we give you special treatment? This may come as a shock to you, but this site isn't based on popular opinion. If that were the case, we wouldn't have quality standards to begin with. If you don't like the way this website is run, relocate. Pasta deletions are a non-issue on sites like deviantART and Wattpad. Likferd (talk) 20:40, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

Stop

Stop posting your deletion appeal in your blog. There is no reason to do something like that besides attention-seeking/drama-stirring. LOLSKELETONS (talk) 21:02, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

"cyberbullying"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Grow up.
LOLSKELETONS (talk) 21:23, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

Response

Now, you're trying to invalidate what I'm saying. I'll be honest, that's exactly what I thought you were going to. Again, like I said earlier, criticism is partially subjective and what person loves, another person will hate. That's one of the challenges a writer has to face.

You can call it personal opinion all you want. That does not automatically make it invalid. Giving opinions, some parts of them personal indeed, is one thing I do a lot of on this site and most thank me for it rather than trying to deflect what they don't like. A picture is worth a thousand words, but I'd rather write a thousand-word story. (talk) 21:05, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

Please

Just start listening to what you're being told by every single admin that's speaking to you. Face it, your pastas aren't getting back on to the site - learn from it and move on. You've had it explained to you by 3 (I think) admins that the deletion was justified and that it wasn't biased - now stop talking about it. What you are doing now is creating drama, and if it continues, you will be blocked. He's not the Messiah! He's a very naughty boy! 21:23, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

Re

What can I say that every other fucking admin hasn't said already? You've written the equivalent of War and Peace (word-wise) with your idiotic rantings. If your stuff doesn't meet the standards, that's how it is. If you choose to be a fucking douche about it, enjoy your ban if you continue. I'm done looking at this bullshit. If you continue, you will be banned. Period. Mystreve (talk) 00:50, February 9, 2015 (UTC)


Deleted Stories

All the stories that were deleted were suffering from one thing or another.  You must understand we get hundreds of new stories per day, and we have had to really come down on things in the past year or so.  HOWEVER, that is not to say they are lost causes.  All of the ones I read could be salvaged by adding information to them.  I've found the weakest part to your stories are the fact that they seem to want to end before they begin.  Don't forget that writing is about showing, not telling.  If it's not his brother, what is it?  That story was not really set up in a way that justified the payoff.  It seemed like the beginning, not the end.  Setup to payoff.

Now, feeling deletions are unjustified is one thing.  It happens.  However, when you start to harass people over it and accuse them of things like getting together a posse of pals to delete things of your or power abuse, that's when you will start to have problems around here.  The Writer's Workshop, in the forums, exists for a reason.  Please don't spam admin asking them to review your stories because you didn't like what the others said or feared they are ganging up on you.

Full disclaimer: I'm as close to True Neutral on this site as you can get.  I don't like to make judgements until I have all the possible information.  This is my judgement on the stories and their deletions, on a merit basis.

You can do better.

And you should.

ClericofMadness (talk) 15:00, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

Stories

Here are the copies of your stories:

I Slit My Own Throat Once - http://pastebin.com/1JgXcvPk

My Grotesque Nightmare - http://pastebin.com/Yr6SdSbe

A Buffering Movie - http://pastebin.com/1QL7FDv8

A Stupid Chain Letter - http://pastebin.com/YXsWvA1J

The Wake Up Game - http://pastebin.com/PiGauMgN

Sad to hear you're leaving the site, but I can totally understand your decision. Best of luck in whatever you go on to do, you do have a lot of talent.

Underscorre (talk) 23:39, February 20, 2015 (UTC)

No problem. Feel free to leave me a message if you ever feel like dropping in. Underscorre (talk) 23:49, February 20, 2015 (UTC)

Blocked

For reuploading all of your deleted micropastas again under one page, you have been blocked for two days (since this is the third time you've reuploaded). You need to go through the deletion appeal process to reupload deleted content.

« UnderScorre » 16:50, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

RE:

"Waiting a couple days before getting to explain myself is always fun"

My user page states very clearly, "If I've blocked you, and you want to appeal this, contact me via Community Central". You could have explained yourself the second you'd been blocked, so you really can't complain to me about the fact you haven't.

My recent upload wasn't "an excuse to reupload deleted stories." It was an idea to combine all my micropastas into one list that was pitched to me a long time ago Empy the admin. I explained this already in my previous message (glad you paid attention). My stories were taken down (allegedly) because, as short stories, they weren't quite strong enough to meet the standards on their own, not because of legitimate lack of quality. Therefore, putting them all together, like Empy did with his short story list, should more than suffice for acceptance on this wiki.

If it wasn't an excuse to reupload stories, what exactly was it? The majority of the stories on there had been previously deleted. You must understand that, to me, it looks like, since your stories have been deleted, you've taken advantage of something an admin said to you a very long time ago to get your deleted stories back on the 'site. I understand Emp said to you that you could upload them all as one page - before they were deleted. I saw that in your previous message you had claimed you were going to reupload them, but I only saw that message once you'd already gone ahead and done the reupload. If you'd taken the time to wait instead of rushing ahead and reuploading, you would have gotten a response from me, advising you against doing it, and telling you you'd be banned if you did. You have been told to be patient about this kind of thing before now, I thought you would have learned.

Think of it like this. Would Empy's short story "Pillow Talk" (I loved how my wife used to wake me up by whispering sweet nothings into my ear every morning. I didn’t enjoy her pillow talk as much the day after her funeral.) get deleted if he posted it as a stand alone story? Unless there's some kind of admin bias, yes. However, his story is accepted on this wiki because he grouped it together on the same page as several of his other short stories. This is the same thing I did. Therefore you should either delete his short stories page because the individual stories aren't all enough to stand alone like you did with mine, or you should have never removed my micropasta collection and blocked me in the first place. Still, I'll be writing an article on the deletion appeal page just to clear things up 100%.

Yeah, Emp's story may have been deleted if it was posted on its own, but that is totally irrelevant to what we're talking about here. Your stories were deleted here, not because they were not of a high enough quality, but because reuploads are never allowed without deletion appeals. These are totally different circumstances. Emp never reuploaded a short story onto his short story page; you did. That's why it was deleted, and that's why you were banned.

Side note: there should be some sort of time frame for ban-stacking. I was blocked for reuploading some stories (via a miscommunication with an admin) about a year ago, so why am I receiving this 2 day block punishment as if I'm repeatedly/ntentionally spamming this wiki?We both know the rules are intended to prevent malicious users from harming/bothering other users on the site. As someone who quite literally just explained (in my previous comment) to you how excited he is to be back and contribute, you know I don't belong in that boat. Please message me so we can clear things up BEFORE blocking me and making me wait several days next time. Obnoxious acts like that make it very hard to believe the admins on this site aren't out to get me. I took an eight month break. I should not come back happy and return to a state of paranoia after just ten minutes.

Why should there be a time frame for stack banning? You seem to take blocks very seriously, given you've just left me one of the longest messages I've received on this wiki, because you were blocked. If you take your block seriously enough to leave me a huge message about it, why can't you take it seriously enough to remember that you're not allowed to reupload? You have been warned for this before, and blocked for it before. I really don't understand how you haven't yet managed to grasp the fact that reuploads of any kind are not allowed. Additionally, I'm sure you know I have to treat all users equally, so it confuses me that you get annoyed you were treated the same as we treat everyone, then lament how we're "out to get you". You've just explained how you're annoyed you're being treated the same as everyone else, how can we be out to get you?

I'm sorry to have made you paranoid, but I really don't think this is that difficult to understand. If you'd waited a few more minutes for me to come online before reuploading, you wouldn't have been banned.

« UnderScorre » 16:26, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

Re:

"Firstly, "bunching them all together and assuming they'd pass" is exactly what YOU told me to do"

Here was what I typed: "Although I might advise Angelz might try to compile his stories into a collection as opposed to fifteen separate pages so as to make them easier to find and get feedback on" How exactly did you reach that conclusion? Please don't put words in my mouth to justify your actions.

Your deletion was denied a year ago and the fact that a majority of those stories haven't been changed (and the new ones have issues I pointed out to you over a year ago when you asked my why I deleted one of your stories) is more than enough reason to turn down an appeal. I'm sorry but when someone tries to set my stories up as some sort of scarecrow argument for why they should be allowed to break the rules (especially when I have broken none in my example), I feel a need to explain myself. Users cannot re-post deleted stories without having approval in any form

A final note because I'm not going to spend any more of my day responding to you when there's users who are actually looking to improve themselves as opposed to arguing (see the message below your message), I have no grudge. To be honest, I had to look up our previous conversations to remember what they were even about. This idea that everyone has something against you has got to stop. It's not healthy, it doesn't help you improve your writing. Look at the posts from a year ago, how many admins responded out of the ones you petitioned on the deletion appeal? At least three, three separate admins who had no part in deleting your original stories. It's not doing you any favors by making these accusations. Everyone is subjected to our quality standards and site rules, (admins alike). Have a good rest of your day. EmpyrealInvective (talk) 17:25, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry you mis-read that, but the deletion reason and the re-uploaded page explicitly mention not to re-upload pages. (even in an anthology) I recently banned a user for a day for posting three stories that were below quality standards]] and then gathering them all into a trilogy and reuploading them. As for the other stories, look at the message above, you're still overlooking grammatical issues (it's=it is, its=possession: "Mankind failed to pass it's creator's test, and as a result of it's selfish...") and the issues Grizzly, Likferd, Underscorre, and Nick pointed out are present in the new stories as well.
For example: "I hopped into my time machine just minutes before Earth was engulfed by a black hole. I was in a hurry, so I crash landed only a couple days into the past." This feels like it should be fleshed out into a full story as opposed to condensed into one sentence. It doesn't really inspire any feeling of horror or creepiness. I'm sorry, but a number of the newer stories have issues on a number of fronts that would lead to them being deleted. Once again, our standards for micro pastas are stringent because a lot of authors assume their easier to write given their length. We even made a guide due to the number of times users contested why their flash fiction was deleted. EmpyrealInvective (talk) 17:57, October 11, 2015 (UTC)
You're focusing on the mechanical issues a bit too much. The fact is, I pointed this out earlier as well as in our chat before it was shut down. Really, there isn't much reason for you to keep going on making the same issues. (Proof-reading is key.)
As for your explanation about why the time machine was misunderstood: "...it simply takes a moment of thinking to understand. This story is intended to break the fourth wall, implying that the speaker came from only two days in our future, meaning the world is about to be engulfed by a black hole." The audience isn't privy to that information because you didn't supply it. We have no inkling that it crashed into our time zone because you didn't mention it. You only say two days in the past. You don't reference it crashing in our present. The story isn't well thought out and you make assumptions that the audience is going to make that intuitive leap without any clues. Once again, I hate to sound redundant, but "This feels like it should be fleshed out into a full story as opposed to condensed into one or two sentences." A lot of those issues are present through-out the anthology.
You made the appeal, it was denied, I gave reasons above, so no. I'm sorry, but the stories fall victim to the issues that were pointed out a long time ago so the appeal is not going to be overturned. EmpyrealInvective (talk) 18:38, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

Just saying

Ignorance is not an excuse. That's a rule of life and law.

Also, uploading compilations counts as reuploading if those micropastas got deleted before, no matter if they were in individual pages or not. The page itself is not what counts, it's the content. --"You know why he's here? Why he's investigating the broken rules? He's not paid or anything. He likes it. He gets off on it" (talk) 17:25, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

Re: My list

This is even more worthless, you can just either remove those from your list, or link to the Pastebin dumps if there are any, it's not a big deal.

FrenchTouch (talk)

Why not just use the Writer's Workshop, or make your own Sandbox, to expand on it? If you don't move on, you ain't going anywhere.

FrenchTouch (talk)

lol

You really don't know when to quit, do you? LOLSKELETONS (talk) 18:43, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

Re:

Please read my deletion appeal message closely as you've misread it (and misquoted it). Here is a direct quote: "I was referring to new stories and not previously deleted stories. It would be counter-intuitive to allow users who had stories deleted for not meeting quality standards to bunch them all together and assume they'd pass." Your stories were deleted and then you reuploaded them together with only minimal changes. This is against site rules, you were previously warned on your talk page against reuploading stories as well, which you ignored. You then asked me about the quality of the newer ones on my talk page and I pointed out the issues I found with a large portion of them.

As for positive comments, that really isn't a good barometer for the quality of your stories. One of the worst stories posted on the site (Blood Whistle) received rave reviews and was even nominated for PotM before it was revealed to be purple prose, cliched, and ridiculous. (Feel free to look up the story on Trollpasta or one of the many you tubers who riffed it.) Currently it's widely accepted as being one of the worst creepy pastas despite having dozens of vocal supporters in the beginning. People tend to give out praise easily and criticism frugally.

As for giving you feedback on your stories, I'm afraid I have to decline. "The admin that reviewed my appeal was biased and angry because he felt that I was insulting his work. That's not a legitimate appeal review." Why would you want my assistance if you think I am that petty? Why would I want to spend time reading stories that have issues and pointing them out only to be dismissed? (Additionally look at SykoKillah's negative review on my story, and then look at the stories he has posted that haven't been deleted because, as it turns out, I am not vindictive. I am focused on improving the overall quality of stories on the site) I do however realize that there are some people who are unable to accept criticism and it would be a waste of time to give feedback that will be ignored. Here is a copy of your stories. As for reuploading them, you still need to do an appeal. Posting them without having an appeal approved WILL RESULT IN A BAN. Take note that this is not us trying to 'silence' you, this is us trying to maintain a site. Best of luck. EmpyrealInvective (talk) 22:07, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

"How is it you decline my request to criticize my stories then, in the very same paragraph, claim to be dedicated to helping users improve the quality of stories on this site?" I'm focused on users who actually want help and are accepting of criticism. This is not you, so I will instead be focusing on people who are actually looking to improve their stories and don't just want people to praise them. (You can go to Deviant Art for that)
My talk page header: "Also note, keep messages civil. If you leave an acerbic message expect me to respond in kind." My earlier responses were genial, until you started kicking up drama and pretending that we were some big-brother like entity trying to 'silence your voice'. I do this volunteer admin-ing because I enjoy helping people improve their stories. That being said, I realize you don't want criticism. You want praise and adulation. And to be honest, your a ways off from that, so I'm focusing on the hundreds of other users who are genuinely interested in feedback. EmpyrealInvective (talk) 23:07, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

Sit Down and Read This, Please

Dude.  You don't seem to get it.  You posted your stories once and they were deleted.  Looking over them, I can see why.  Hell, several people including myself explained to you why.

Then you reuploaded them again and were banned for doing so.  This was completely justified.  I would have done the same thing.  You broke the rules.

However, now you seem to feel wronged and let me just calmly explain to you that you are wholly wrong to feel that way.  Your stories were deleted for being either too short or too generic.  I won't repeat what has been said many times, though.  You need to seek out feedback from the Writers' Workshop instead of trying to get admin to do it for you.  We've already told you why your stories have been deleted in the past.  You obviously don't want to hear what we have to tell you.

You have posted numerous lengthy posts to the admin both here and elsewhere, and I need to ask you to either get over yourself and seek help for these stories or give up and stop posting about it.  You can ask us all you want but we have told you why your stories have been deleted.  Asking us another hundred times won't change our answer.  Posting them verbatim a hundred times won't improve them, either.

Please stop accusing the admin here of holding something against you or accusing them of abusing there power when it is clear to any rational person that no wrongdoing has occurred.  If you cannot or will not stop leveling such false accusations against people here, we reserve the right to restrict your ability to edit permanently.

This is not to say we don't want your stories here.  This is to say we want the best possible version of the stories you have to tell.  What you have given us is shallow and lacking.  You can do better and I have already told you that you should do better.

ClericofMadness (talk) 23:04, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

In Response:

1) Your talk page is where most all of us put our messages to you.  You definitely should look there.  It's not unfair to ask something like this of you.  If you don't understand how to navigate this site or find where we have told you something ask us.  Don't default to accusations against us.

2) STOP CALLING YOUR STORIES HIGHLY PRAISED.  Get this through your head right now: Your stories, at most, had less than ten replies to them, and none of them were overly praised.  You seem to have this notion that your stories were met with glowing praise and therefore have some sort of entitlement to them.  Be they posted on deviantArt or elsewhere, the comments of our editors are all that matter here.  We are not the deviantArt community.  We are not the YouTube community.  We are the Creepypasta Wiki community.  You seem to forget this.  Please stop doing this.  You are (whether intentionally or not) attempting to bias readers against the stories by stating such things.  Stop it. 

ClericofMadness (talk) 23:49, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

NOTE: You have some sort of cognative bias against exactly how much of a percentage of those comments were positive here.  I'm not sure if you can see these, but here, let's have a go.

Graverobbers
These are the comments left on that, not including your own.  If you are able to see that page and the deleted comments, feel free to plug in your other story titles and look at the "overwhelming" praise left.  I hope this opens your eyes to the reality of the comments that have been left here.  You think too highly of yourself and thus refuse to let yourself grown when confronted with actual, constructive criticism.

ClericofMadness (talk) 00:04, October 15, 2015 (UTC)


>To take all of that away overnight, even if it was, somehow, for perfectly legitimate reasons, it was poorly thought out and inconsiderate.

No, son, that's life.  I told you that you can do better.  That's as much encouragement as I can give anyone.  You didn't meet the quality standards of the site.  However IF YOU WORK ON THEM YOU WILL.  I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT.  NOW PROVE IT TO ME.

ClericofMadness (talk) 00:10, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Reply:

Listen Dad, don't give me that "It's life" nonsense.

>It's the truth.  Your stories were deleted.  You reuploaded them without changing anything.  In almost a year this is the first time you have tried to use the WW.  You posted them and left as soon as they were deleted.

Whether you admit it or not, all 5 stories getting deleted at the same time by the same admin seems fishy. There's no debating that. If it was a legitimate quality issue, he could have attempted to discuss it with me. 

>Special:WikiActivity.  We camp there or Special:RecentChanges.  It's how one person sees all these things.  You are coming off as overly paranoid and you are being accusatory yet again.  You seem to hold this notion that we are persecuting you and frankly you are coming off as a complete troll with the amount of times we have explained this to you.

I will prove to you that I can do better, but right now I'm not feeling motivated. It's not only due to the obvious toll that drama takes on a person, but as I've explained to other admins, micropastas are one of my favorite kinds of stories to create since I enjoy the challenge of making a good short story.

>You know how you grow as a writer?  You break out of that cozy shell you have made for yourself.

Simply put, you want my stories to get longer, and they will, but not until I'm able to successfully post some short stories as well.

>If you are implying you will never post again until you are able to succesfully post your micropasta collection, you have some serious work to do on them.

ClericofMadness (talk) 00:23, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Generally speaking, if we find a person has uploaded a story that does not meet the QS, we tend to go look through their other contributions to find out if they have uploaded anything else and look at them.  The N beside a page name indicates they are the creator of the page.  It's really easy to see what pages they have created that way, and there are more ways, but that's the easiest I use.

It's the same way we look for vandalism if someone has made a bad faith edit; we look through their contributions and check them.

ClericofMadness (talk) 00:34, October 15, 2015 (UTC)


FINAL WARNING

YOU ARE NOT GETTING THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD.  YOUR STORIES WERE DELETED FOR THE CLEARLY DELINATED REASONS WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY GIVEN YOU. YOU ARE DEAD-SET ON ACCUSING PEOPLE OF WRONGDOING.  IF YOU DO NOT STOP YOU WILL NO LONGER BE ALLOWED TO EDIT.  STOP ACCUSING THIS ADMIN TEAM OF MALICIOUSLY DELETING YOUR STORIES.  WHEN PRESENTED WITH EVIDENCE OR FACTS YOU RESORT TO ACCUSATORY STATEMENTS. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED SO MANY TIMES AND THIS IS GROWING OLD.

ClericofMadness (talk) 00:55, October 15, 2015 (UTC)


"So you admit he did go out of his way specifically to hunt down my stories."

Here's how quality control works: when we find a shitpasta, most of the time we go to the author's page to see if there's more pastas. If there are, we read them, and if they're found to be shit as well, we delete them. Do you understand? It's not all about you. LOLSKELETONS (talk) 00:57, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Re:Upset

I can understand being upset about having your stories deleted. 

http://creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/Creepypasta_Wiki:User_Submissions/ClericofMadness?direction=prev&oldid=708855

See that?  See all those red links?  Those are my stories.  My stories that were deleted because other admin thought they weren't good enough to be here.  However, I don't get mad about it.  I know they have a job to do.  I can admit when I wasn't at my best, even if they were some of my favorite stories.

Negative comments are going to happen.  Learning to weigh them against the positive is how you grow.  Dwelling on them is how you destroy yourself.  That's how you climb into a shell from which you refuse to break free.  This is why you don't want to try anything besides micropastas, right?  You know you got high praise from them.  This is why you are so steadfast to cling to the old.  To what once was.

You need to move on.  Let go.  It's the only way for you to improve.

ClericofMadness (talk) 01:26, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Re:

Despite the loaded compliment, I'm afraid I have to turn you down for the moment. I'm packing and getting ready for a big day of travel tomorrow and won't be able to really sit down and review anything in-depth for a few days, and before that, I have been requested to review someone else's story. So the next time I'll be able to really review something won't be (likely) until the weekend. I would suggest making some edits in the meantime as MrDupin left a number of things you can improve on and getting his input on the changes made. EmpyrealInvective (talk) 01:31, January 5, 2016 (UTC)

I made my comment and gave my review. You have been messaging other admins for feedback so I didn't see much point in repeatedly reviewing a story (especially after receiving feedback that pointed out a lot of major flaws that are still present in your story) when there are multiple other users (remember this is a site with somewhere between 1000-2000 active users who are seeking feedback and need to have their edits, stories, comments, blogs, forum posts, etc. patrolled.) who also need reviews and feedback. Please try to be considerate of others. EmpyrealInvective (talk) 09:11, January 12, 2016 (UTC)

I'm Sorry About Your Deletions

Mr. ColorlessAngelz,

I am very sorry that your shorter stuff was deleted. However, your longer things were not, which suggests to me that you should write longer things. Please write more. Your writing was good; I assume that it is still good. Maybe you could make a page about your short transcriptions, but write new ones. I hope that you will grace this site with more stories to stem the relentless contraction of the numbers. I am not an admin, though. I am just--Squidmanescape (talk) 04:23, April 25, 2016 (UTC)

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